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: Engine Compatibility Info


Ravencrow
12-28-2007, 04:46 PM
Ok, I thought I would list some engine compatibility info. You can use this to find donor cars for blown engines and such.

The Asian/European market Tiburon 1.6 i4 Alpha engine can be found in the following vehicles:

Hyundai Lantra 1996-2000
Hyundai Accent 2001-present

The Tiburon 2.0 i4 Beta II engine can be found in the following vehicles:

Hyundai Elantra 2001-present
Hyundai Tucson 2005-present
Kia Spectra 2005-present

The Tiburon 2.7 Delta engine can be found in the following vehicles:

Hyundai Sonata 2002-2005
Hyundai Santa Fe 2001-present
Hyundai Tucson 2005-present
Kia Optima- 2001-present, although the engine included in the 2006.5 and above is a variant
called the 2.7 Mu, which puts out an extra 15 horsepower for the same displacement
Kia Sportage 2005-present

The Hyundai 3.3L v6 Lambda engine can be found in the following vehicles:
(suitable swap for the Tiburon, although not a drop-in mod to my knowledge like the 3.5)

Hyundai Sonata 2006-present
Hyundai Santa Fe 2007-present
Kia Sorento 2007-present
Hyundai Azera 2006-present

The Hyundai 3.5L v6 Sigma engine can be found in the following vehicles:
(mostly drop-in for Tiburon, common practice in Korea. See Kspec for more details)

Hyundai Santa Fe 2001-2006
Hyundai XG350 2002-2005
Kia Amanti 2004-present
Kia Sedona 1999-2005
Kia Sorento 2003-2006



On a side note, as far as engines that fit into the Tiburon:

The 1.6L i4 Alpha engine used in Non-USA markets, should be a factory drop-in
The 2.0L i4 Beta II eninge Factory drop-in
The 2.7L v6 Delta engine Factory drop-in
The 3.3L v6 Lambda engine (can be made to fit with modification)
The 3.5L v6 Sigma engine (can be made to fit with modification)


Engine Specs:

1.6L i4 Alpha:
104 hp (78 kW) @ 5800 rpm and 144 Nm (106 ftlbf) torque @ 3000 rpm

2.0L i4 Beta II:
141 hp (105 kW) @ 6000 rpm and 184 Nm (136 ftlbf) torque @ 4500 rpm

2.7L v6 Delta:
172 hp (128 kW) @ 6000 rpm and 245 Nm (181 ftlbf) torque @ 3800 rpm

3.3L v6 Lambda:
244 hp (181 kW) @ 6000 rpm and 304 Nm (224 ftlbf) torque @ 3500 rpm

3.5L v6 Sigma:
194 hp (145 kW) @ 5500 rpm and 297 Nm (219 ftlbf) torque @ 3500 rpm
(US Spec, elsewhere is more powerful by 10-20 hp)

Ravencrow
12-29-2007, 12:59 AM
I don't know if this is sticky-worthy, but it is really helpful sometimes.

Zurik
12-29-2007, 02:54 AM
Hmm.. interesting sticky. Do we have anyone on the boards that has done a lambda/sigma swap? Also, it could help if you added where the other engines could be found as well.

Oh and as a side note... the sigma engine seems to suck even more than the delta. eww.

Edit: Oh, and what about the 1.6L engines some users on here have? At least I believe they were 1.6.. not sold in the US but still should probably be up here.

andbudzi
12-29-2007, 11:04 AM
wierd they clame that Kia Optima has 185hp - i think they changed their hp rating without doing anything to the engine

Ravencrow
12-29-2007, 11:20 PM
Added 1.6L to the info sheet.

Ravencrow
12-30-2007, 12:33 AM
Any chance of this getting stickied to the top of the i4 and v6 forums?

MuffinMan89
12-30-2007, 01:17 AM
I dont know. I would like to hear some more info about the 3.3L v6 Lambda engine
im mean 244hp and 224 is pretty good for a stock motor . plus imagine that in a tib with a custom turbo . POWWUUHH

Angelus
12-30-2007, 04:12 AM
the 1.6 in the uk was also used in the lantra 96-2000, its not an alpha. its a beta.

Ravencrow
12-30-2007, 10:21 AM
changed to reflect new info

suspicious_tuscani
12-30-2007, 12:28 PM
STICKY:3_winkthu

Angelus
12-30-2007, 12:28 PM
1.6 beta was 112hp, i forgot to mention.

Ravencrow
12-30-2007, 12:59 PM
Changed to reflect 116 hp Beta info from the Elantra

Ravencrow
12-30-2007, 10:16 PM
Sticky.....?

GuamBomb
12-30-2007, 10:27 PM
This is great stuf man. Good job!

1.Is there a supercharger made for the Lambda motor?

2.Can an alipine or SNiper fit on the Lambda motor?

3. Can we use the stock ECU(tib) for the lambda or do we have to change whole harness and use the Lambda ECU too?



SUBSCRIBED!:3_winkthu

Ravencrow
12-31-2007, 12:51 PM
Researching info for Guambomb

Ravencrow
12-31-2007, 01:10 PM
As far as I know, there are no bolt-on supercharger or turbo kits for the Lambda in the US. Kpec might have some over there, though. The engine is just so new, nothing has been developed. Can you say custom turbo set up though?

If you are going for pre-tested waters then use the Sigma for a swap. It is mostly drop in.
The Lambda would be interesting to see though. I posted it as a viable swap simply because of it's size and the tranny configurations the new Sonatas and Santa Fe's have. It SHOULD fit, but I don't know any technicalities.

aLiEn_sPoReZ
12-31-2007, 01:15 PM
Wow, good stuff... Stickied


Come up with a better thread title, because "Engine Info" is kinda vague. How about "Engine Swap Compatibilty?"

Angelus
12-31-2007, 03:03 PM
Another little correction :P the aisan/euro 96-00 elantra was called the 'Lantra' and was not renamed to elantra until 2001.

Ravencrow
12-31-2007, 07:20 PM
Thank you. I think I did ok for a 17 year old with some google search experience :-)
Keep telling me abut corrections though, every little bit helps.

prsplayer17
12-31-2007, 07:28 PM
the 1.6 in the uk was also used in the lantra 96-2000, its not an alpha. its a beta.

no i'm pretty darn sure that the 1.6L in tibs is an alpha. the beta 1 was a 2.0L

Ravencrow
12-31-2007, 11:20 PM
arg! Make up your minds, lol

And the Beta 1 did have a 1.6L
I don't know which it was

Ravencrow
01-01-2008, 01:28 AM
Revelation! I went on www.kdmstuff.com. All of his stuff for the 1.6L Tiburon engine state that the engine is an Alpha, not a Beta. Changing the info to reflect this.

markstibbyspot
01-01-2008, 02:37 AM
what about tranny?

Angelus
01-01-2008, 06:57 AM
no i'm pretty darn sure that the 1.6L in tibs is an alpha. the beta 1 was a 2.0L

I owned a 1.6 BETA 97 lantra before my coupe :P
I bought and fitted the BETA headset, sparkwires, intake, exhaust etc from various sites, none of them would fit on an alpha :)
Im also in the uk, you arent :)

Also, there was a 1.8 BETA model too, almost forgot that one so you can also add that too.

Ravencrow
01-01-2008, 11:07 AM
According to the Tib parts listed on kdmstuff, the 1.6 used in the tibby was an alpha, although I know for a fact the 1.8 was a beta.

Ravencrow
01-01-2008, 11:10 AM
I could add the 1.8, although I didn't know it was used on GKs. Thought it was mainly an RD engine, and I don't know if it will play nice with GK trannys (much like the Lambda I posted)

Someone with an intimate knowledge of these engine tranny combos post up or send me a PM so we can clear this up.

GuamBomb
01-01-2008, 03:48 PM
This is great stuf man. Good job!

1.Is there a supercharger made for the Lambda motor?

2.Can an alipine or SNiper fit on the Lambda motor?

3. Can we use the stock ECU(tib) for the lambda or do we have to change whole harness and use the Lambda ECU too?



SUBSCRIBED!:3_winkthu

Also another question. Do we have to swap the tranny too if use the sigma or lambda motor? Or can we use our current tranny on our tib for these motors?

Thanks. Thanks in advance for doing your home work:3_winkthu ..lol

Ravencrow
01-01-2008, 07:24 PM
The Sigma motor bolts up to our trannys. The Lambda, im not so sure.

2.7Elisa03
01-07-2008, 04:02 PM
would doing a 3.5l swap and keeping the auto 4 make much of a difference than having the 2.7 with i/h/e with the auto 4

or should you switch over ther 5 speed auto too?

Ravencrow
01-08-2008, 08:11 AM
I believe all of the bolt patterns are the same, so you should be able to keep the auto 4. And yeah, it would still make a difference, as the 3.5L is a torque beast compared to the 2.7L.

v6tuscani2004
02-22-2008, 09:31 AM
Its a shame the 3.3L Lambda is not a direct drop in, that would be the way to go for power!

g8m3rtag
03-19-2008, 01:21 AM
As far as I know, there are no bolt-on supercharger or turbo kits for the Lambda in the US. Kpec might have some over there, though. The engine is just so new, nothing has been developed. Can you say custom turbo set up though?

If you are going for pre-tested waters then use the Sigma for a swap. It is mostly drop in.
The Lambda would be interesting to see though. I posted it as a viable swap simply because of it's size and the tranny configurations the new Sonatas and Santa Fe's have. It SHOULD fit, but I don't know any technicalities.

What does "mostly drop in" mean?

BlackSharkGT
04-07-2008, 07:55 AM
wow cool thread man i would love some more info about the lambda or sigma swaps or maybe see one installed but awesome idea man

Sevin
04-07-2008, 11:58 PM
im going to try to get my hands on that 3.3 and swap it. I wonder if ngm's assassin will adapt to it... worth a shot. great thread!

Zurik
04-08-2008, 12:21 AM
I own a sigma motor lol.. maybe I should start doing my research (i own a kia sorento.. maybe swap the engines?)

nerv
04-14-2008, 10:44 AM
This the things i am looking at
"Kia Optima- the 2006 and better are called the 2.7 Mu, which puts out an extra 15 horsepower for the same displacement" This is the same G6BA engine like our tib's but the Optima's Mu Engine Code is G6A5. These v6 has cvvt (Continuous variable valve timing) like BMW's Valvetronic can alter timing and lift continuously, which is called Continuous variable valve timing or CVVT.
according to alot info gather from the matrix.
now i was thinking if i keep the same lower block but switch the heads and computer with cvvt
would this Frankenstein up able to work ?
Just wondering

jp1884
04-15-2008, 02:52 PM
Hi,

If I change the engine Tibby 2003 2.0. cc by an Delta V6 of Sonata.... Can I use the same speed transmission or I should to change it too ?

IF the answer is yes, which can use ? sonata too ?

What else should I change with the new swap .


I just thinking beacuse I want buy a tiiby v6 but in my country there is no a lot of them, hence the solution would be buy a I4 and change the engine


Thanks

jp1884
04-15-2008, 06:13 PM
Can someone provide me the engine serial number of the Hyudai Sonata v6 2.7 cc in order to order it with my local used motors store

I understand that is the same that the tibby 2.7 use right ?

Thanks

Ravencrow
05-21-2008, 09:01 PM
jp1884, sorry for my lack in response. The 2.7L swap would fit, and would bolt up easily, but the ecu and wiring would have to be completely changed. You might as well just swap a 3.5L for the trouble. Also, for those still skeptical of the 3.5L swap, head on over to the kspec sponsor thread to see their swap. The motor bolts up to our tranny easily, but as far as the ecu and wiring, they DO have to be changed/modified.

Also, for any of those who have/will have/want to have the 3.5L motor, the timing belt change looks like hell in sprocket form.

Ravencrow
05-21-2008, 09:01 PM
Double post due to sudden internet lag.

NAVYTIB
06-28-2008, 12:22 AM
Great thread! Anyone know where I could find some more diy pics, parts and info for the 3.3 swap?

2.7Elisa03
08-09-2008, 10:21 PM
has anyone started a 3.3 swap?

bluedragon436
08-15-2008, 12:20 AM
This the things i am looking at
"Kia Optima- the 2006 and better are called the 2.7 Mu, which puts out an extra 15 horsepower for the same displacement" This is the same G6BA engine like our tib's but the Optima's Mu Engine Code is G6A5. These v6 has cvvt (Continuous variable valve timing) like BMW's Valvetronic can alter timing and lift continuously, which is called Continuous variable valve timing or CVVT.
according to alot info gather from the matrix.
now i was thinking if i keep the same lower block but switch the heads and computer with cvvt
would this Frankenstein up able to work ?
Just wondering


I was just looking these type of things up myself online... and from what I found it looks to be pretty much the exact same... as far as it should all bolt up and work on the current 2.7 Tib motors.... I can't promise you on the wiring harness though... That part might be a PITA... I would love to do that 3.3 swap though... I know one of the slightly larger V6's was cast iron or steel or something like that... not sure which one though... that might be an issue as far as weight... but would be nice for boosting if setup correctly... Def. might have to look into finding a 3.3 in a junk yard once I get back stateside... Def. going to subscribe to this one though...


Alright just started messing with some more research and found this on wikipedia about the 3.3: Apparently there is a larger version of the 3.3....

The 3.8 L (3778 cc) version produces 263 PS (196 kW) (312 hp (233 kW) in the Genesis Coupe) and 258 ftlbf (353 Nm). It has a 96.0 mm (3.8 in) bore and 87.0 mm (3.4 in) stroke.

The Genesis variant of this engine makes 290 hp (220 kW).

Applications:

* 2007/2008 Hyundai Azera
* 2007/2008 Hyundai Equus/Centennial
* 2006/2007/2008 Hyundai Entourage
* 2007/2008 Kia Amanti
* 2006/2007/2008 Kia Sedona (Grand Carnival)
* 2007/2008 Kia Sorento
* 2009 Kia Borrego
* 2009 Hyundai Genesis
* 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe

f0x_12
01-15-2009, 10:12 AM
i know that our engines fall apart with too much boost and i was wondering if anyone knows how these larger engines take to boosting.?? (3.3/3.5)
it would be nice if one of them was an easy swap and was more reliable at higher boost levels.

darvo
01-15-2009, 06:45 PM
They must be good with boost since they have iron blocks, and have beefy rods...

mathwieu
01-27-2009, 04:06 PM
double post

mathwieu
01-27-2009, 04:06 PM
does anyone know if the v6 3,8 liter of the genesis sedan or coupe fit into a 2003 tiburon ??

is the sedan manual or just auto ??

just thinking to drive a 312 hp STOCK motor in my tibby just make me dream

tuscaniGT44
01-31-2009, 01:12 PM
the sedan to my knowledge is automatic and tiptronic. the genesis coupe is optional with a standard 5 speed and 6 speed for the V6.

i like the engine compatibility thread, but i would really love to drop in a 350 LT or LS2 engine into the tib. or a 2jz engine. i have a V6 2005 tib. i think i'd be sick to drop in a V8 crate motor into the tib.

dannylm89
01-31-2009, 01:36 PM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Slowec/2jz.jpg

In all seriousness JT that would be a sick project to work on

nerv
01-31-2009, 08:32 PM
the sedan to my knowledge is automatic and tiptronic. the genesis coupe is optional with a standard 5 speed and 6 speed for the V6.

i like the engine compatibility thread, but i would really love to drop in a 350 LT or LS2 engine into the tib. or a 2jz engine. i have a V6 2005 tib. i think i'd be sick to drop in a V8 crate motor into the tib.

it would be nice if it RWD

SEtibbr
02-03-2009, 08:09 PM
I'm a newb so please be gentle.

How difficult would it be to swap out a I4 2.0 litre auto with a 2.7l manual? I love my 03 but availability forced me to get the I4 auto so like any enthusiast I am craving power. I hope to start with the swap and then move onto other mods for power gains.

armyshark
02-03-2009, 10:26 PM
i have a 04 GTSE,
where would i have to go to get a lambda motor
i have a 4speed auto
i havent found a website where i can get this engine
would i have to swap anything?
like the ecu or tranny????
any help would be appreciated

nerv
02-05-2009, 10:08 AM
I'm a newb so please be gentle.

How difficult would it be to swap out a I4 2.0 litre auto with a 2.7l manual? I love my 03 but availability forced me to get the I4 auto so like any enthusiast I am craving power. I hope to start with the swap and then move onto other mods for power gains.
i understand you are craving power but too me you can still creating power with the 4 banger then v6 and less money $$$...
i dont think it hard because you still have the same space but different ecu hardness, ecu, tranny , even axle would be issue ..you will spend more money swap it then building up the 4 banger bro....
i have v6 but when the gas crisis came ..i looked into a 4 banger to swap for my v6...
you can change the auto into a manual....and look up beta upgrade
or if you really want to swap motors and all...4g63t.....

armyshark
02-05-2009, 01:17 PM
i understand you are craving power but too me you can still creating power with the 4 banger then v6 and less money $$$...
i dont think it hard because you still have the same space but different ecu hardness, ecu, tranny , even axle would be issue ..you will spend more money swap it then building up the 4 banger bro....
i have v6 but when the gas crisis came ..i looked into a 4 banger to swap for my v6...
you can change the auto into a manual....and look up beta upgrade
or if you really want to swap motors and all...4g63t.....

can you fit the 4g63t engine in a tib??

nerv
02-05-2009, 04:07 PM
can you fit the 4g63t engine in a tib??
yes you can .....
also i asking around because i did more research
can anybody here know about 6g74 engine

SEtibbr
02-05-2009, 08:35 PM
i understand you are craving power but too me you can still creating power with the 4 banger then v6 and less money $$$...
i dont think it hard because you still have the same space but different ecu hardness, ecu, tranny , even axle would be issue ..you will spend more money swap it then building up the 4 banger bro....
i have v6 but when the gas crisis came ..i looked into a 4 banger to swap for my v6...
you can change the auto into a manual....and look up beta upgrade
or if you really want to swap motors and all...4g63t.....

Thanks for the help bud. I have been doing some research and found that the 4 is actually a strong motor. I think I am going to do a buildup for more power and eventually a turbo. Other places have said that this is actually a Mitsubishi motor. If that is true would upgrades for an eclipse work with this motor?

Thanks again for the advice.

nerv
02-06-2009, 05:29 PM
Thanks for the help bud. I have been doing some research and found that the 4 is actually a strong motor. I think I am going to do a buildup for more power and eventually a turbo. Other places have said that this is actually a Mitsubishi motor. If that is true would upgrades for an eclipse work with this motor?

Thanks again for the advice.
i would be careful to swap part with the beta ...
if i had the 4 i would have swap it long time ago with a jdm being it strong can hold alot
parts are easily to get as well ... but the beta are nice too...i seen them whip *** on evo's
more research bro

SEtibbr
02-06-2009, 05:40 PM
i would be careful to swap part with the beta ...
if i had the 4 i would have swap it long time ago with a jdm being it strong can hold alot
parts are easily to get as well ... but the beta are nice too...i seen them whip *** on evo's
more research bro

I was doing some research and found a supercharger for the 2.0 I might go that way first. I need to know which engines are compatible for a swap. I know a couple of mechanics but I don't want the car off the road too long as it's my daily driver. Which JDM engines can I swap in?

As always thanks for the help.

07se
10-11-2009, 10:15 PM
awesome thread!

MEYER
10-19-2009, 12:14 AM
awesome thread!

i agree this is a good thread

AHMED GALAL
11-05-2009, 05:59 PM
great info
________
TOYOTA SPORTIVO COUPE SPECIFICATIONS (http://www.toyota-wiki.com/wiki/Toyota_Sportivo_Coupe)

DropZero
11-05-2009, 09:35 PM
thats interesting to see more motors that are possible to fit in are engine bays!

i know the head on the 08' i4 were used on the 1.8ltr amd 2.0 lts beta motors the 1.6ltr i never heard of and same with the 3.3 and the 3.5. it would be interesting to know who has dumped a 3.3 or a 3.5 into their car!? this should be sticked in i4 section also!

illestchop
12-07-2009, 10:03 PM
u forgot about the 1.8l beta engine ... which is similar to the 2.0l beta engine

tiburonracer7
12-10-2009, 09:30 PM
What about the 3.5 and 3.8 lambda engines????

The_Mo
12-10-2009, 09:31 PM
What about the 3.5 and 3.8 lambda engines????

what about them?

tiburonracer7
12-10-2009, 09:36 PM
what about them?

Are they a compatible swap? He says the 3.3 is and then goes to talk about the Sigma 3.5..
There is a Lambda 3.5 and a Sigma 3.5 ..

The_Mo
12-10-2009, 09:40 PM
Are they a compatible swap? He says the 3.3 is and then goes to talk about the Sigma 3.5..
There is a Lambda 3.5 and a Sigma 3.5 ..

none are a direct bolt in. meaning there WILL be fabrication involved which means that it will cost you. most would say it isnt worth it, and for the price you could go f/i and make more power then you need in a FWD car.

tiburonracer7
12-10-2009, 09:43 PM
none are a direct bolt in. meaning there WILL be fabrication involved which means that it will cost you. most would say it isnt worth it, and for the price you could go f/i and make more power then you need in a FWD car.

I was just wondering all the others were talked about but not those.. But I wouldnt want to lose my A/C and stuff.. too much work.. But I am definitely interested in the 3.3 and 3.5 if its an easier swap.. might have to start looking around junk yards

The_Mo
12-10-2009, 09:52 PM
I was just wondering all the others were talked about but not those.. But I wouldnt want to lose my A/C and stuff.. too much work.. But I am definitely interested in the 3.3 and 3.5 if its an easier swap.. might have to start looking around junk yards

doesnt exist. its going to cost a lot any way you go. unless you have tons of expendable cash i would advise against it. and even if you have lots of cash i'd still advise you get a better platform (better car)

tiburonracer7
12-10-2009, 09:58 PM
doesnt exist. its going to cost a lot any way you go. unless you have tons of expendable cash i would advise against it. and even if you have lots of cash i'd still advise you get a better platform (better car)

That is why i said easier instead of easy... no swap is easy... But I know the tib would not be a good platform vehicle for it, but I love the tib. and am sadly considering looking into the cast iron block... Just looking into it not saying I will do anything... Either way I i'll love my tib

The_Mo
12-10-2009, 10:01 PM
That is why i said easier instead of easy... no swap is easy... But I know the tib would not be a good platform vehicle for it, but I love the tib. and am sadly considering looking into the cast iron block... Just looking into it not saying I will do anything... Either way I i'll love my tib


good attitude to have.
good luck in your modding

tiburonracer7
12-10-2009, 10:04 PM
good attitude to have.
good luck in your modding

Thanks and you too sir

dRocballer
02-01-2010, 03:49 PM
[The Hyundai 3.3L v6 Lambda engine can be found in the following vehicles:
(suitable swap for the Tiburon, although not a drop-in mod to my knowledge like the 3.5)

Hyundai Sonata 2006-present
Hyundai Santa Fe 2007-present
Kia Sorento 2007-present
Hyundai Azera 2006-present

The Hyundai 3.5L v6 Sigma engine can be found in the following vehicles:
(mostly drop-in for Tiburon, common practice in Korea. See Kspec for more details)

Hyundai Santa Fe 2001-2006
Hyundai XG350 2002-2005
Kia Amanti 2004-present
Kia Sedona 1999-2005
Kia Sorento 2003-2006




The 3.3L v6 Lambda engine (can be made to fit with modification)
The 3.5L v6 Sigma engine (can be made to fit with modification)


Engine Specs:

3.3L v6 Lambda:
244 hp (181 kW) @ 6000 rpm and 304 Nm (224 ftlbf) torque @ 3500 rpm

3.5L v6 Sigma:
194 hp (145 kW) @ 5500 rpm and 297 Nm (219 ftlbf) torque @ 3500 rpm
(US Spec, elsewhere is more powerful by 10-20 hp)[/QUOTE]

What kind of mods are we talking about for the 3.3 and 3.5? i currently have an 03 v6 and it lacks serious power and i want to keep the car but go hardcore n/a then maybe throw a little boost on it. what about keeping my m/t? im not really worried about labor (ill have lots of help). this is something i really am itching to do so any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Fullblowntib
02-01-2010, 04:37 PM
The swap is rediculas expensive and a major undertaking for the amouont of work and moneies you would be better off buying a turbo and or S/C and bolt them on for instant hp...with a good turbo setup you can pump out just a lil under 300 whp all day on a good tune on the stock Dlta block:3_sleepey

Tyranical Tiburon
02-01-2010, 09:17 PM
so how much boost can the 3.5 handle, and can you get performance parts for it to rebuild it for more boost?

Flotzilla
03-03-2010, 01:48 AM
has anyone looked into swap for the theta engine? i think the 2.4l or even the 2.0 from the forte koup would be fun to play with even though its aluminum... i mean we know the block can stand up to a lot of power, its the same world engine used by the new evo, right?

Delecroix
05-23-2010, 12:57 AM
This thread is definitely awesome. As others have stated, F/I would be a cheaper and easier route for more power than a complete swap out, but the price also comes with the originality of a different engine. I would love to have a Lambda dropped into my Tibby, though I'm unsure about the 3.5 and 3.8L variants.

Does the drivetrain of a vehicle limit the engine swapping, i.e. does the engine have to be a front-wheel drive in order for the engine to be considered for swapping or would a rear-wheel drive work as well?

saikoi
05-29-2010, 09:46 PM
Ive been interested in the 3.5 motor for some time. Ive heard our tranny's will work with the motor (correct?) and if so would that mean the 6-speed would bolt up? Also, i know several have asked already but how much boost could the 3.5 hold and are there ANY performance parts for it (other than intakes, exhaust, etc.)?

Thanks

2.7Elisa03
06-15-2010, 12:10 PM
Iron block dohc variant.of the 6g74... Bottom end sould handle 500hp if iv read correctly

m0stwanted
07-20-2010, 03:59 PM
Does anyone on here actually have the 3.3 Lambda swapped into there tib?

boanerges57
08-18-2010, 11:09 PM
Just FYI
The mitsubishi 6G72, 73, 74, 75 engines all have the same crankcase bolt pattern as the delta engines.

that would be the 3.0, 2.5, 3.5 and 3.8 liter v6 engines respectively.

Zuku
08-24-2010, 08:42 PM
Good sticky!

2.7Elisa03
09-27-2010, 04:08 PM
im still doin my homework and gathering cash but it will def be start in spring 2011 :)


*ORS*

3NV4L1D
12-13-2010, 04:14 PM
has anyone looked into swap for the theta engine? i think the 2.4l or even the 2.0 from the forte koup would be fun to play with even though its aluminum... i mean we know the block can stand up to a lot of power, its the same world engine used by the new evo, right?

Im also curious about this... will the Theta-II 2.4L (2011 Sonata) bolt up? I just bought a new Sonata and the car STOCK is faster than my V6 tib with full bolt-ons. I read that the 2.4L GDI is a high-compression, direct injection, and durable engine. 200hp/ 188ft/tq i believe with 35mpg. On a test they ran the engine for 300 hours at WOT with minimal wear. Thats insane.

if anyone wants pics of the engine and where it bolts i can post. It would be sweet to have a lighter, faster, and later boosted 2.4L GDI in a Tib 8)

AGGTiburonGT
11-23-2011, 09:21 PM
This is really great info man

Chezza
07-04-2012, 07:40 AM
For some odd reason this thread was revived and I don't see any recent posts. However this is all new to me and is quite interesting.

So while this is up may I ask, has anyone invested in changing the engine of the V6 Tib to the 3.3 or other?

Regina
07-04-2012, 09:06 AM
For some odd reason this thread was revived and I don't see any recent posts. However this is all new to me and is quite interesting.

So while this is up may I ask, has anyone invested in changing the engine of the V6 Tib to the 3.3 or other?

It's a sticky.... And useless bump post was most likely deleted.

Jtib2004
11-17-2012, 07:11 PM
How does the optima make more power with the same displacement?

waseemrayan
04-14-2013, 05:48 PM
Good info thanx dude

gaddis33
11-12-2013, 10:55 AM
I don't know if this is sticky-worthy, but it is really helpful sometimes.

sticky?

gaddis33
11-12-2013, 10:56 AM
has anyone looked into swap for the theta engine? i think the 2.4l or even the 2.0 from the forte koup would be fun to play with even though its aluminum... i mean we know the block can stand up to a lot of power, its the same world engine used by the new evo, right?

yeah, I'm thinking not worth all the money

gaddis33
11-12-2013, 10:57 AM
yeah, I'm thinking not worth all the money

lets just go with an LS1 at that point. why hold back? just sayin

gaddis33
11-12-2013, 10:57 AM
lets just go with an LS1 at that point. why hold back? just sayin

maybe even a subaru drivetrain and motor. that would be something different.

gaddis33
11-12-2013, 10:59 AM
maybe even a subaru drivetrain and motor. that would be something different.

maybe just a 150 shot would be suitable. lol. cost effective.

gaddis33
11-12-2013, 11:03 AM
Im also curious about this... will the Theta-II 2.4L (2011 Sonata) bolt up? I just bought a new Sonata and the car STOCK is faster than my V6 tib with full bolt-ons. I read that the 2.4L GDI is a high-compression, direct injection, and durable engine. 200hp/ 188ft/tq i believe with 35mpg. On a test they ran the engine for 300 hours at WOT with minimal wear. Thats insane.

if anyone wants pics of the engine and where it bolts i can post. It would be sweet to have a lighter, faster, and later boosted 2.4L GDI in a Tib 8)

go with the 2.0 turbo. 274 hp. obvious improvement over the 2.4, 198 hp. however may not bolt up. considering that the 2.0 is not available in a manual trans.

eddi887
12-03-2013, 08:14 AM
Great thread, lots of information. I look forward to hearing about any completed swaps, and the necessary changes to make it happen...

Jeff

Roger Holdorf
02-16-2014, 01:35 PM
According to the Tib parts listed on kdmstuff, the 1.6 used in the tibby was an alpha, although I know for a fact the 1.8 was a beta.

The 1,6l or 1599ccm was a alpha engine kalled G4ED 77KW Top speed in Tib 185km/h

Dandyd
02-25-2014, 10:04 PM
I assume that it does not matter which transmission is used with engine?

M.Kyle
02-26-2014, 10:51 AM
I'm not sure.. You would think the bell housing patterns may be different between engines, I can at least confirm that the Delta vs MU ARE the same. With the others, you'll have to just look at pictures and compare.

Roger Holdorf
02-28-2014, 06:13 AM
I'm not sure.. You would think the bell housing patterns may be different between engines, I can at least confirm that the Delta vs MU ARE the same. With the others, you'll have to just look at pictures and compare.

I have had ab1,6l which I swapped to 2,7 I cantell you that the transmission is different. I tuned my 1,6l with crower cams, shaved head and so. And I reached easly I does not recall exact 7something. I felt I needed one more gear. I asked Hyundai and they said I could change a part in the transmission and then I would get same ratio as 2l.

M.Kyle
02-28-2014, 11:43 AM
I have had ab1,6l which I swapped to 2,7 I cantell you that the transmission is different. I tuned my 1,6l with crower cams, shaved head and so. And I reached easly I does not recall exact 7something. I felt I needed one more gear. I asked Hyundai and they said I could change a part in the transmission and then I would get same ratio as 2l.

Well there we go.
They probably used a longer final drive.

Bckflpgyg
03-09-2014, 08:50 PM
I know the stock 2.7L v6 is the same engine as the 2.5L thats found in the Hyundai Sonata, the 2.7L is just bored out another 0.20". It should be the same bolt pattern, (engine mounts, etc.) PLUS should share the same throttle body, trans, clutch, and everything else for that matter.

TylerHowes
03-27-2014, 02:10 AM
I know I may be barking up in the wrong thread.. but I thought I'd ask anyway. So I'm needing to replace my engine in my 03 (produced on Nov. 1, 2002). I was wondering if I could swap with an 05? From my understanding, the earlier 03 models use a 2 bit ECU while the older models use a 4 bit ECU. Would swapping my motor with an 05 cause ECU wiring problems?

Roger Holdorf
03-28-2014, 06:10 PM
[QUOTE=TylerHowes;4608218]I know I may be barking up in the wrong thread.. but I thought I'd ask anyway. So I'm needing to replace my engine in my 03 (produced on Nov. 1, 2002). I was wondering if I could swap with an 05? From my understanding, the earlier 03 models use a 2 bit ECU while the older models use a 4 bit ECU. Would swapping my motor with an 05 cause ECU wiring problems?[/QUOTE
I have a 03 car with 06 engine and have used 03, 04 and 05 ECU`s with no trouble, For the moment I use a reflash 05 and on this my cooling fans run at all time, but I guess it is adjusted like that when they reflash.]

TylerHowes
03-28-2014, 06:18 PM
[QUOTE=TylerHowes;4608218]I know I may be barking up in the wrong thread.. but I thought I'd ask anyway. So I'm needing to replace my engine in my 03 (produced on Nov. 1, 2002). I was wondering if I could swap with an 05? From my understanding, the earlier 03 models use a 2 bit ECU while the older models use a 4 bit ECU. Would swapping my motor with an 05 cause ECU wiring problems?[/QUOTE
I have a 03 car with 06 engine and have used 03, 04 and 05 ECU`s with no trouble, For the moment I use a reflash 05 and on this my cooling fans run at all time, but I guess it is adjusted like that when they reflash.]

cool thanks for the feedback man

hcriddick21
04-21-2014, 03:53 AM
It's there a thread that's like this but for the whole car, ie wiring, sway bars.

PhillyKid90
04-22-2014, 02:51 PM
This is great info.