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: We have decided to prototype a Supercharger now for 03+ Tibbs


Nemesis519
02-04-2004, 01:28 PM
We have started to work out the details of a SC system for all 03+ Tiburons. We are going to use a ProCharger (http://www.procharger.com/) Centrifugal Supercharger and Intercooler with our system. This will be a complete bolt on kit with everything needed to make it run safely. We want to start on the system ASAP, but there is a catch, I have to come up with 3000 dollars to buy the SC and Intercooler all other R&D costs are going to be covered by the shop.

This isn't going to be like other shops that say they are going to make it and 5 months later still no product. We expect to have a system up and running within the first month, probably sooner. Kit will go on sale very shortly after that.

I'm not askling for any money now, but when the time come I would like to have a few investors - 6 total. All I need is 500 dollars from each person. In exchange for this, those 6 people will get the kit at cost. i.e. no profit for us. The total price for the kit will be between 3500 and 4500 when all is said and done. This will include the SC, Intercooler, all mounting hardware, A/F controller (if needed), and any other parts needed.

We expect to make at least 60% more hp with this kit running around 6psi. Don't be fooled though, 6 psi running through an Intercooler yeilds a lot more power than 6psi going straight into the engine.

I'm going to start a list for the 6 people- SERIOUS Buyers only - Click here to put your name on the list (http://tiburontuner.com/forum/showthread.php?p=295#post295)

SharkBitV6
02-04-2004, 01:59 PM
dang man, procharger, wooohhooo they rock. i will try to round up some funds.

o hey i registered with tibtuner.com and all the topics are locked and i can't reply or post on anyof em.

Nemesis519
02-04-2004, 02:06 PM
dang man, procharger, wooohhooo they rock. i will try to round up some funds.

o hey i registered with tibtuner.com and all the topics are locked and i can't reply or post on anyof em.


An email was sent to activate your account, I'll manually activate your account for you, give me a few mins.

DemonEyez
02-04-2004, 02:34 PM
hey.. is 3500 - 4500 the at cost price or the reg price? Also lets say i put in the 500.. then i don't buy the kit till like 5 months later.. would that work?

Myerac Scythe
02-04-2004, 02:38 PM
Nemisis...first off, I gotta ask...what shop do you work for. Your mods on your site are the same as mine ( minus the stage 3 IM), so are we looking at a 220whp goal from this before EFI tuning? Will you be incorporating the universal charging system and which intercooler are you leanin to? I agree with the intercooled statment on hp, but #'s are the key. I would be very interested, and be willing to invest but would like to hear some goals other than a supercharger being built. At a top end of 4500 dollars thats not much lower than TC's package and he is tuning 250whp.

Nemesis519
02-04-2004, 02:47 PM
hey.. is 3500 - 4500 the at cost price or the reg price? Also lets say i put in the 500.. then i don't buy the kit till like 5 months later.. would that work?


Ya that would be fine.

Nemesis519
02-04-2004, 02:52 PM
Nemisis...first off, I gotta ask...what shop do you work for. Your mods on your site are the same as mine ( minus the stage 3 IM), so are we looking at a 220whp goal from this before EFI tuning? Will you be incorporating the universal charging system and which intercooler are you leanin to? I agree with the intercooled statment on hp, but #'s are the key. I would be very interested, and be willing to invest but would like to hear some goals other than a supercharger being built. At a top end of 4500 dollars thats not much lower than TC's package and he is tuning 250whp.


I am working with a shop, not for a shop... The shop is Chix Performance Center in Roswell Ga. I have been good friends with the owner for 5 or so years now. They are the ones that built my subframe connectors. They also Prototyped the ProCharger system for the new SS Silverados.

With the mods I have we are going for 300WHP... I don't want to start spouting off number though, I live on cold hard facts. I don't want to tell everyone that the car will make X amount of power then if doesn't happen have everyone pissed at me.

Red2.0Tib
02-04-2004, 04:36 PM
Nemesis you say all Tiburon's? Or just the 6 cylinder? I have an I4 is why I ask.

Nemesis519
02-04-2004, 04:46 PM
Nemesis you say all Tiburon's? Or just the 6 cylinder? I have an I4 is why I ask.


Sorry, I ment V6's

After this is done though, we might make one for the I-4's - It wouldn't take much to make the V6 kit work with the I-4

Red2.0Tib
02-04-2004, 04:47 PM
Cool, if you can get one for the I4 I would be interested, probably sometime later in the year, say May or June.

Myerac Scythe
02-04-2004, 04:54 PM
I am working with a shop, not for a shop... The shop is Chix Performance Center in Roswell Ga. I have been good friends with the owner for 5 or so years now. They are the ones that built my subframe connectors. They also Prototyped the ProCharger system for the new SS Silverados.

With the mods I have we are going for 300WHP... I don't want to start spouting off number though, I live on cold hard facts. I don't want to tell everyone that the car will make X amount of power then if doesn't happen have everyone pissed at me.


I understand the realtionship part now, thanks. I also am glad you didn't make a boastful promise, i would've never returned to this thread, i am curious though at what we, cause it's a we after I put my money in on your name, are trying to get too and what the early ideas in support pieces this will entail. If you are hoping to hit 300whp, are we talking block work or bolt ons only? Share your vision my man, pM me if you would rather. Might be better anyways. 8)

White03GT
02-04-2004, 05:30 PM
I understand the realtionship part now, thanks. I also am glad you didn't make a boastful promise, i would've never returned to this thread, i am curious though at what we, cause it's a we after I put my money in on your name, are trying to get too and what the early ideas in support pieces this will entail. If you are hoping to hit 300whp, are we talking block work or bolt ons only? Share your vision my man, pM me if you would rather. Might be better anyways. 8)

i would like to know the same thing you are saying also what kind of price would we be looking at for the investors?

Nemesis519
02-04-2004, 07:18 PM
I understand the realtionship part now, thanks. I also am glad you didn't make a boastful promise, i would've never returned to this thread, i am curious though at what we, cause it's a we after I put my money in on your name, are trying to get too and what the early ideas in support pieces this will entail. If you are hoping to hit 300whp, are we talking block work or bolt ons only? Share your vision my man, pM me if you would rather. Might be better anyways. 8)


When you say support pieces, are you talking brackets, pipes, fuel injectors, ect???

If so, it will come with everything needed to bolt the kit on and be running full boost safely I can't tell you want everything is yet, becuase thats all part of R&D..

From what we have learned form NxgGen, he is pushing very close to 300whp with no problems and he is still on stock internals. I probably drive my car harder than 98 percent of everyone on this site, so don't worry, if the engine is gonna blow at that hp level then mine will be the first to go ;)

As for total price for investors, I can't give you an exact price becuase it again all comes down to what parts are needed. I would say 3500 to 4000 to be on the safe side of things. Again I don't want to say to high or to low of a price and have you mad at me if something changes. I will sell the kit at cost once it is finished.

As far as keeping everyone updated on the project, thats not a problem/ I work 10 mins away from the shop and am on the computer 14+ hours a day :P

ds03tiburon
02-05-2004, 05:19 AM
sounds good Nem!! keep me informed man, i would love to come and check out the progress sometime. im not that far from you and i am up in Alpharetta a lot on thursdays so definitely keep me informed if you can!

MR.TIBB
02-05-2004, 05:25 AM
Nemesis...


As posted on the other site...I may be in on this...

I'll let you know in a week or so....

spacemonkey311
02-05-2004, 11:36 AM
ok a few questions....
1. If an investor gives you 500 bones and the final price of the kit at cost is 3500...do we have to pay 3,000 or 3,500?
2. Does the use of an intercooler force us to get a new front bumper due to space requirements?
3. What kind of fuel tuning will we get? With 300hp it can't run off the stock ecu i'm sure.
4. Will there be future upgrades with this shop or are they just coming out with one kit and that's it?
5. If possible could you get the person who is working on this project to come on here and answer some questions?

Don't get me wrong, everything you have done with your car has been proper and it must be awesome to get in your car and drive it everyday knowing that you have one of the best tiburons in the world, but I just have to ask the questions ya know? I'm sure you will lead to the promise land of horse power!

Nemesis519
02-05-2004, 12:09 PM
ok a few questions....
1. If an investor gives you 500 bones and the final price of the kit at cost is 3500...do we have to pay 3,000 or 3,500?

The kit will have a markup on it, the shop has to make some money, so say the final price for the kit is 5000 with everything needed to make it run. If it costs me 3000 in parts then you get the kit ofr 3000. Granted you already put in 500 so your total investment will be 3500, but thats still 1500 off what the kit sells for. PLEASE NOTE - these are not actual prices, just trying to give him an idea.


2. Does the use of an intercooler force us to get a new front bumper due to space requirements?

We will get a stock tib to see how everything fits, no you will not need a new bumper, we will get somethign worked out.


3. What kind of fuel tuning will we get? With 300hp it can't run off the stock ecu i'm sure.

We won't know any of this until we actually start working on it.


4. Will there be future upgrades with this shop or are they just coming out with one kit and that's it?

The shop owner and I have been talking about coming out with a whole line of products for the Tiburon, there will be upgrades in the future.


5. If possible could you get the person who is working on this project to come on here and answer some questions?

I'll try, but its a fairly small shop and he stays very busy. He is rebuilding an old chevelle for a customer, rebuilding a 51 corvette (I think thats the year) Not to mention all the other work he has coming in the door. But I can answer all the questions you have, I will be there building the kit with him.



And ask all the questions you want, thats why I'm here :)

ohoh
02-05-2004, 12:38 PM
I have been trying to find some good performence shop for some time now, can you PM me the Chix Performence Center's address? THnx

Nemesis519
02-05-2004, 01:25 PM
I have been trying to find some good performence shop for some time now, can you PM me the Chix Performence Center's address? THnx


You have mail

spacemonkey311
02-05-2004, 06:01 PM
thanks for answering all my ?'s nemisis, but i think that you're going to have a hard time getting 6 people to throw you 500 bones with no real solid idea of the final project. don't get me wrong i'm sure things will become more clear in the next few weeks and i know about procharger. it's good sheeeat! so as soon as things are looking a little more solid i'll probably be the first one to buy in because i'm tired of waiting for a high hp answer to my problems. thanks.

SharkBitV6
02-05-2004, 06:18 PM
if its for a procharger, i would do it if i have the cash./

Ibbanez
02-06-2004, 07:09 PM
Im in for the Rippmods SDS right now, but if nothing becomes of it I may be interested. What is the time frame we are looking at for the complete kit? Or a ruff estimate. Thanks.

USMCGunRock
02-06-2004, 09:22 PM
NEMESIS!!! I AM IN! starting March i am 90% sure i'll have the $500 needed for the R&D of this supercharger.

couple of ?'s though. 1. if the supercharger doesn't fall through, will we get our $500 back?
2. when the kit is ready, can we pain in installments and then recieve the kit after it is all paid for? 3. will the intercooler u r looking for be bigger than the alpine intercooler?(i hope so...lol)

thanx nemesis. put me down for it.

picknrun
02-06-2004, 10:12 PM
Was this idea something u guys just thought up to do? or has some one really looked at the size of the S/C u plan to use and the space u have in your engine bay and came up with a plan on where to stuff it. I’m asking this b/c over last fall I spent a good amount of time trying to stuff a Vortech V-1 S-Trim S/C in my V6 tib with no luck b/c of space problems and the need for an electric water pump. I think that if u can get your shop to come up with a plan and make up a nice diagram to post for people to see now the setup will install and work u will have no problem getting investors.

USMCGunRock
02-06-2004, 10:19 PM
good point picknrun. i forgot to ask that question. how big will this s/c be? i dont' want to have to modify my hood with a big (_!_) hump for a s/c. i'm still in it though(^_^)

Nemesis519
02-07-2004, 01:02 AM
To make this work, the battery is going to have to be relocated to the back of the car. That opens up a whole lotta room. Then a drive shaft will run froim one side of the engine bay to the other. (Don't wanna here "your coping ripp... Its the only "easy" way of making this cost effictive. We have already figured out how to route the drive belt so thats not a problem.

Once we send in the Proposal to ProCharger, I will talk with their techs about what model will be besy for our goals. And yes the intercooler will be bigger than Alpine's.

If you want to pay a little at a time its all good.

If something happens and this doesn't happen, then yes everyone will get a full refund.

USMCGunRock
02-07-2004, 10:50 AM
so, u have:

1. Myerac Scythe
2. USMCGunRock
3.
4.
5.
6.

btw, that other thread u post a link to, that's a different forum, correct?

if it is, could u make a list here too?

USMCGunRock
02-11-2004, 09:58 PM
bump! no new update?

DemonEyez
02-11-2004, 10:04 PM
there is an update.. the guy cliff who owns that shop.. got hit by a steel 2x4 or something and he fractured his skull from his eye socket to the back of his head. : ) so lets all just be a lil patient and give him till next week to recover.

USMCGunRock
02-11-2004, 10:14 PM
(X_X) ouch! when did this happen? dayam...i hope the cliff is ok. that gotta suck. i know i know that i gotta be patient. as i said alot of times, thanx to NT.com, patience has become my bestest of friends. thanx to GB's LOL (^_^).

anywayz, i know that the idea of prototyping this s/c has been on the planning stage already. i have plans and b4 i start spending $$ on N/A gear, i was just wondering if the s/c WILL work with the parts. i mean like will it work with the nextgen headers, etc. etc. just very curious. coz i really want to get in on this.

DemonEyez
02-11-2004, 10:17 PM
nextgen headers will work fine. if you have a cai that will of course be gone. but a exhaust and headers will be fine as would ported Intake manifold, bored out tb. not sure if a replaced pulley will interfere.. best to ask Nemesis about that. And cliff did this on monday.

Btw his head injury is also why i didnt get my sub frame connectors done today.. that will be done friday night - saturday.

USMCGunRock
02-11-2004, 10:24 PM
still, i wonder how getting hit in the head with a steal 2x4 happened? i work with steal alot and shiet like that never happened(that and i wear a hard hat(^_^))

hrm...that was goin to be my next purchase too, pulley(-_-). oh well, until i get an update i won't be purchasing any more performance gear.

thanx d-eyez

DemonEyez
02-11-2004, 10:26 PM
ahh well here is how it happened he was removing a ariator <-- spelling is prolly off from t he back of his truck and i think he had this there and it kinda slid and fell

Myerac Scythe
02-13-2004, 04:20 PM
ouch..ouch...ouch, that is horrible!

SharkBitV6
02-13-2004, 04:23 PM
dang man that stinks. i hope we get this s/c made, since it looks like Ripp's S/C is a no go

Nemesis519
02-13-2004, 05:59 PM
dang man that stinks. i hope we get this s/c made, since it looks like Ripp's S/C is a no go


He is still in the shop busting stuff out :shocked:


Don't worry, everything is Still a go.

Just curious, did Ripp say they wern't making one now?

SharkBitV6
02-13-2004, 06:37 PM
well now they say that they have purchased a 04 GT 6 Speed and are now waiting for the 6-8 investors to reply.

Julez
02-14-2004, 09:53 AM
Have we posted this on:

http://www.hyundaiaftermarket.com
http://www.teamsr.org
http://www.hyundaiperformance.com
http://www.speedstate.com
http://www.kore-motorsports.com

???

I can't imangine us not being able to get this going...
I'd put down for it, but I've still gotta sell my 2nd gen and buy my 3rd gen :biggrin:

But ProCharger is awsome, before I decided on the 3rd gen, I was looking at a used 350z, and was looking at the ProCharger supercharger for that, and it's freakin awesome!

Nemesis519
02-14-2004, 05:02 PM
Have we posted this on:

http://www.hyundaiaftermarket.com
http://www.teamsr.org
http://www.hyundaiperformance.com
http://www.speedstate.com
http://www.kore-motorsports.com

???

I can't imangine us not being able to get this going...
I'd put down for it, but I've still gotta sell my 2nd gen and buy my 3rd gen :biggrin:

But ProCharger is awsome, before I decided on the 3rd gen, I was looking at a used 350z, and was looking at the ProCharger supercharger for that, and it's freakin awesome!

Not yet, I'm seeing if ProCharger will donate the equipment before I really start asking for money from people. We should know something hopefully next week. :)

incubus
12-21-2004, 11:04 AM
He is rebuilding an old chevelle for a customer, rebuilding a 51 corvette (I think thats the year)
Just a little thingy, corvettes didn't exist then :)

SharkBitV6
12-21-2004, 11:09 AM
talk about bringing back an old topic. geezz

incubus
12-21-2004, 11:11 AM
talk about bringing back an old topic. geezz
Sorry, reading about superchargers. and noticed it.

tiburon_balla
12-21-2004, 11:54 AM
wow, someone's living in the past.

Malogus
12-21-2004, 11:55 AM
Man, I am glad this post was brought back from the dead, just to tell us that there is no such thing as a 51 vette. I have been looking for a 51 vette to buy since februrary when this was originally posted, and havent been ablt to find one. Thanks for clearing that up....

Chaotix
12-21-2004, 12:32 PM
So this idea went nowhere?

tiburon_balla
12-21-2004, 12:39 PM
So this idea went nowhere?

nope, nemesis got the alpine stage 3 and i'm sure he's busy with his AWESOME website, www.tiburontuner.com :-\

Malogus
12-21-2004, 01:09 PM
Man that website blows. Especially that yellow tib on the front. LOL, it looks like he painted the rubber window trim yellow, but he colors like a 4 year old.