My friend just gave me his shift light. I heard that they're expensive to install. Is that true?

umm? no. my friend does it for like 25 bucks.. or for me free cus im with his sister w00t

a shift light? You mean an annoying little thing that tells you when to upshift and downshift? Fark that. I hate those things.

same here fray.. i dont like those bulky things up there. once were done with the house and some business matters aka like 3 - 4months im making my own shift light which is just gonna be a LED placed somewhere on my dash. simple and non obvious/bulky

yeah a sift light is prety lame, if your not racing... you should be able to know when to shift by the sound of your engine.... and if your racing you should have shifting timed out from practice.

90% of cars with shift lights a rice mobiles, dont be them. lol

yeah a sift light is prety lame, if your not racing... you should be able to know when to shift by the sound of your engine.... and if your racing you should have shifting timed out from practice.

90% of cars with shift lights a rice mobiles, dont be them. lol



So if you've got it timed out, do you look at a watch when you're going down the track? Using a shiftlight is not rice if you actually race the car.

very true, but lets be realistic, how many people ACTUALLY race on tracks? far and few between.

and i'm not talking about going to a local drag strip to find out your 1/4times, tons of boyracers do that.

HORIZON you cannot say that shifting is pure timing. take for example I put a new mod in.. its going to change the timing. Weather conditions. weight in your car etc etc.

And i dont think "shift lights" are rice. I think having those HUGE UGLY Things sitting on your dash or big ORANGE bulbs as shift lights is rice. I say if were gonna do it,w e should be more discrete/creative about it Someone should find a way to make a adjustable shift light,* so you can set what rpm for it to go off* and what it does is make your entire RPM and SPEED gauges light up

HORIZON you cannot say that shifting is pure timing. take for example I put a new mod in.. its going to change the timing. Weather conditions. weight in your car etc etc.


with all those things you;d have to adjust the light anyways right? al i'm saying is that you should KNOW which proper RPM's to shift at, and know "approx" when your car is there by timing and sound. looking down at your gauges is dangerous, especially at high speeds on the street.
as long as you KNOW YOUR CAR, they arent needed.




And i dont think "shift lights" are rice. I think having those HUGE UGLY Things sitting on your dash or big ORANGE bulbs as shift lights is rice. I say if were gonna do it,w e should be more discrete/creative about it Someone should find a way to make a adjustable shift light,* so you can set what rpm for it to go off* and what it does is make your entire RPM and SPEED gauges light up

in reality, unless you race on a circuit. its just another flashy option which is really unneccessary.

Smart move if your racing, just time it out...."I dont want HorizonDC to think Im rice, so I'll just chance over reving my motor"...... Yea right.....

As for a nice small shift light in the car like a single LED, one that is adjustable, I think that is a great idea, especially if your cranking the toons.....cant hear sh*t other than the music during those times.....so a small visual que would be ideal....

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dont beat on horizon it was just his opinion. EVERYONE has different opinions on what is rice. ANd personally its your car man so you should feel free to do what what you want.. unless you have a MULE of a father like i do! god damnit! ARGH!!

anyway. my idea was to either have the gauges light up like completely.. <-- if possible at all Or have either 1 or 2 LED's go off when its time to shift. Its not something iw ould stare at, but in a position so i can notic eit happening. THus allowing me to keep my eyes on the road and shift at the proper time.

Thank you. My question was answered in the first thread. I could give a s--t less what you guys think about shift lights. I got the damn thing for free and I do know when to shift. Sorry if I was trying to earn some extra points at the shows.


I say if were gonna do it,w e should be more discrete/creative about it Someone should find a way to make a adjustable shift light,* so you can set what rpm for it to go off* and what it does is make your entire RPM and SPEED gauges light up
Strongly agree.

my point wasnt calling shift lights "rice." all i was saying is that most of the time they are unneccessary, and if you DO RACE, on a TRACK, then hell yeah a shift light it was you need. but MOST PEOPLE with shift lights use them for street racing, i feel its not needed. as far as the rice thing goes... i give Hondas props when earned. i got smoked by a turbo civic before, no biggy.

but you do realize that there is optimal shift points...and if you have the light set to right before you have to shift (accounting for reaction time)...it'll help you run faster quarter mile...but all you really need there is a LED shift light

um i have a shift light.

so im a ricer?

right. People that think that they actually know when to sh ift because of the sound of their engine are idiots.

so tell me, does your engine make a weird sound when it hits peak horsepower? like a large squawk? or something? the strange thing is i didnt know WHEN my motor made peak HP until i actually got a dyno, analyzed it along with my gear ratios to determine my shift points.

you are telling me that you know when you are hitting 6k rpm jsut by the sound of your motor?

ok superman, whatever you say.

Well I agree with you Dylan. While I do want a shift light my wife went out and bought me a 5 inch sport comp autometer tach with shift light, the silver face. I guess Im gonna install it. Im so so about it due to the fact that its so big and bulky but since I go to the track often, well not as much since I moved out to Panama City, Im gonna do install it tommorrow as long as its not raining again. Ohh well I think Im doing things that will justify the need. So hey why not. Id like to know when Im shifting. Also I hate at the track having to take my eyes off the strip to look down at the tach. Well I have to loolk down on mine with where I have the steering wheel and all. I personally feel that if you think you need it or want one to improve your speed for whatever reason then it should be enough for whoever to get one. I personally dont care what others think. And no Im not *****ing at anyone so please people dont take me the wrong way. I dont know if this is coming out right due to the fact that Ive been drinking but what the hey.

ohh and one other little note. While for the most part I can sort of understand the point about know where to shift. Yeah I to knowing where to shift by listening when just driving or going semi fast for the hell of it. But when your at a drag strip, a shift light could probably be one of the best performance mods you could do. Think about it, well for me anyway it will add consistensy and at a place where your going for every little 1/10th of a second or even a 1/100th of a second this will help you. And having a dyno and doing what Dylan said. And also Im not by any means the best racer or anything but if you look at the list for the times you'll see Dylan at the top and Im a 4, just a couple 1/100th's off from 3rd, so I think we can have a little justifiable reason for what we are saying. Also depending on what you have done, ie. flywheel and ud pulley your stock tach might not actually be where you think it is. I plan to find out for sure tommorrow when I install. To see if the stock tach can keep up. Some of you may think Im nuts from what I just said but we'll see. Oh and sorry for the drunken rant. heheheh

There is no way someone can pick out 6100 vs 6300 by sound and you wont get your best times if you don't know exactly when to shift. You also won't pick out the exact shift point by the crappy factory tach. And whoever complained about a stupid light going off, uhmm, you put a cap on the light when not racing.

or darkhamr i can go to radio shack pick up a 2 doller switch and wire it in. : )

hrmmm....LED shift light. not a bad idea at all. hopefully somebody can do a DIY on that(wiring). i would be interested in that.

i myself know when to shift by looking at the tach or by sound. but when i'm blasting some Linkin Park i can't hear my engine/exhaust and helz no i won't sacrifice that blink of a second to look @ my tach coz there r alot of crazy drivers here in my area. to play it safe i usually shift between 3000-4500 rpm(daily driving) and 5000-6000rpm(against another car).

i really hate those fugly big(_!_)tach/light. LED will be pretty cool and descrete(^_^)

but you do realize that there is optimal shift points...and if you have the light set to right before you have to shift (accounting for reaction time)...it'll help you run faster quarter mile...but all you really need there is a LED shift light


yes yes i do realise this, thats why i said if you actually race, a shift light would not be a bad idea. damn.

lets all stop and step back and take adeep breath and become friendly with each other again. Hi hows it goin.

Its going and going and going.. yep i use energizer. : )

yup yup....it is going...going...going...*stalls*...darn..i need a shift light........LOL(^_^)

Get a shiftlight like one of these.

http://www.second-look.com/html/shiftlight.html

OR

http://www.raptorperformance.com/

I plan on getting the Rptor and installing it in the air vent like the pic below. Once you put the vent louver back on you don't notice it's there till it lights up.

http://www.lonestarstangs.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=35083

I don't think they are "Rice". I hate rice and have one. This is how mine is set up.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/500000-500999/500618_14_full.jpg

I've been thinking about adding a shiftlight for a long time, have yet to find one that really appeals to me, most are just too huge...

I also never really looking up the wiring for it, do you just tap into the wire behind the instrument cluster for the tach or what ?

wearing??? do you mean wiring?? Well some have just tapped into the rpm wire back that but me personally, Im using a tach adapter coming off the coil packs.

Thats it i'm getting one, my music is to loud to hear my engine so i ALWAYS over rev. I suck I know...

Adrock, Tiburon1575. those lights look great! ok...how do they work anywayz? so u set them to the rpm range u want it to light up for the point of shifting, that i got. can that also go for down shift as well? DIY? thanx

Well I wired up my tach adapter and installed my tach w/shift light today. :) Im not a huge fan of the big tachs but my wife bought it for me so hey. It works great. Im about to go out a see a couple of things about it. I'll report back later..

Well, mine is a bit more of a complex setup. Here is the control unit
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/500000-500999/500618_16_full.jpg
The unit is a bit costly, but so very well worth the money. Here is a link to the item.
http://store.racinglab.com/aprsrevmet.html
The shift light was an option that you can buy from ApexI. I will tell you this unit was SOOOO very well worth the money. It is very accurate. Unlike the units that plug into the cigarette lighter, this one hard wires into your ECU. It can be used as a Tach, speed sensor, race monitor, Etc.. Also people love the look!

Umm thats an a/f tuner not a tach. I know it has it on there but its still different. I'll have one of those next week also. hehe

My friend has an LED shift liight built into his A/C vents. It scared the bejesus out of me when I was driving his car. However, when I raced it for the first time (never gunned it before), the shift light was just in the corner of my eye and had about .5 second reaction time for peak RPM. I beat his best time by .3 seconds. If I could get a setup like that in my vent with some type of switch (maybe controlled by the heated seat buttons, etc. I'd be all for it...

Man I am tired already. I dont think shift light is rice by any means. If it saves me from over reving my motor oh well I guess my car is rice.
I have a HUGE stereo and I have it up most of the time. So I would see a shift to be very useful. One suggestion you might think about is putting the shift light down in your AC vent so its hidden and you stil get the same use out of it. My buddy put a two stage light system in his Tib. and it looks and works great. Just my 2 pennies.

No it is not an A/F meter. It is the RSM (Rev speed meter). It looks just like the AFC. I will have the AFC next month. You can set up the RSM to trigger a shift light, N20, and some other stuff. It is a Tach among other things. Read further on the link I gave for information.

No it is not an A/F meter. It is the RSM (Rev speed meter). It looks just like the AFC. I will have the AFC next month. You can set up the RSM to trigger a shift light, N20, and some other stuff. It is a Tach among other things. Read further on the link I gave for information.

I apologize I glanced at it and it looks awfly close to the new SAFC II I just bought.