Didnt see any topics on this so i thought i would post it. I was at my local Hyundai dealership today and found out they are releasing a turbo package for the delta engine. It should be out by spring and will be $1200. It includes a turbo, intercooler, blow-off, intake, and throttle body. Guess the petition worked!

someone is smoking crack at your dealership. $1200 is impossible to do. Figure at least twice that! Plus This would be the first we are hearing of this...

someone is smoking crack at your dealership. $1200 is impossible to do. Figure at least twice that! Plus This would be the first we are hearing of this...

yeah, that will get you a turbo, and some piping....maybe a bov...but that is it.

check out this thread for a low priced turbo kit: (I4 only)

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=561

Didnt see any topics on this so i thought i would post it. I was at my local Hyundai dealership today and found out they are releasing a turbo package for the delta engine. It should be out by spring and will be $1200. It includes a turbo, intercooler, blow-off, intake, and throttle body. Guess the petition worked! CAN I HAVE THE NAME OF THAT DEALER thank's

$1200 is really cheap. But they will probaby say that in order to get that price that you need to have them install it for a NOMINAL FEE. In other words. Very expensive labor.

Lets have some hope for that price :) not bash my excitement right away, let me dream :P LOL I think that price would be awsome. Labor would cost about how much to have it installed. What size turbo are we talking about? Who is it made by and what kinda mount intercooler?

well H.A.R.D has one that will be 227 whp dont know if that is true

Maybe the $1200 is the labor charge! Turbocharger extra.

hahaha oh my i hope not :(

well H.A.R.D has one that will be 227 whp dont know if that is true

where did you obtain this info?

Didnt see any topics on this so i thought i would post it. I was at my local Hyundai dealership today and found out they are releasing a turbo package for the delta engine. It should be out by spring and will be $1200. It includes a turbo, intercooler, blow-off, intake, and throttle body. Guess the petition worked!

Count me in on a GB for that!!! :P

yeah. not happening, but if so, let me know and I will be looking at that and not GUDE, but snce a price like that can't possibly include everything you really need, I'll stick with less than 2500 on GUDE's setup that's good to 22 psi (though your engine is not).

He said around 1200, but the dealership is Henderson Hyundai, in Henderson, NV. The guy I talked to's name is Michael Lawrence and hes the VIP Sales Consultant.. whatever that means.

www.hendersonhyundai.com
Check it out and see if thats a real price or if you get quoted diffrent.

wow that price is really low.

a few things people arent realizing about this price is that it is possible!!! the main thing to look at here is most of the kits you see so far for our cars are only produced and sold a few at a time, where as these kits will be mass produced and sold all over the world, or at least where ever there is a hyundai dealer.

small volume=large price
large volume=smaller price

Get what i am saying?? i wouldnt look a gift horse in the mouth if this price is for real!! I wouldnt want them to see everyone thinking it should be more and raise the price just because people think they should pay a small fortune for performance. And on another note if you really think about it a turbo kit really isnt that expensive when it comes to the parts to make it, some steel tubing an intercooler, turbo, manifold and possibly a piggy back. all these things hyundai can get dirt cheap because they will be buying in volume. the R and D is usually what cost the most but it goes right back to Hyundai having the time and personnel to get it done or at least the financial backing to pay someone to. i think it would be great if this is the price for the turbo because i know i will be getting one!!! just keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best!! just my .02

VIP Sales Consultant = Sales man, which then = "Don't know jack!" Dude...that sales man was probably refering to HARD...he just doesnt know wtf he is talking about.

a few things people arent realizing about this price is that it is possible!!! the main thing to look at here is most of the kits you see so far for our cars are only produced and sold a few at a time, where as these kits will be mass produced and sold all over the world, or at least where ever there is a hyundai dealer.

small volume=large price
large volume=smaller price

Get what i am saying?? i wouldnt look a gift horse in the mouth if this price is for real!! I wouldnt want them to see everyone thinking it should be more and raise the price just because people think they should pay a small fortune for performance. And on another note if you really think about it a turbo kit really isnt that expensive when it comes to the parts to make it, some steel tubing an intercooler, turbo, manifold and possibly a piggy back. all these things hyundai can get dirt cheap because they will be buying in volume. the R and D is usually what cost the most but it goes right back to Hyundai having the time and personnel to get it done or at least the financial backing to pay someone to. i think it would be great if this is the price for the turbo because i know i will be getting one!!! just keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best!! just my .02

that makes sense to me

VIP Sales Consultant = Sales man, which then = "Don't know jack!" Dude...that sales man was probably refering to HARD...he just doesnt know wtf he is talking about.
That makes even more sense to me. One of the sales guys told me that hyundai made a chip for the car that adds 50 HP and it was $345. But of course I found out he was full of SH!T! ::)

well i just calld ther parts dept and YES THEY WILL SELL THE TURBO FOR 1,200$ BUT IT HAS TO BE PUT ON THER HE ALSO SED THAT IT WILL RUN FROM 6 TO MAYBE 8 BLS OF BOOST that ****in rules (75$ x5 hr)=375 maybe.

yes my theory and the sales person being full of shiot is both possible but basically what i am saying is a turbo set-up isnt that expensive to build. A guy in my car club has a turbo Accord and he build his turbo from scratch for about 1500. so yes it is possible!!! and yes it works perfectly :biggrin: heres a pic

http://www.importmadnessonline.com/Pics/ExtremeShowoff/images/Picture%20214.jpg

when will this go on sale? i want one for 1200. do we have to get it installed there?

I wil belive it when I see it for sale, salesmen will say anything to get you to buy a car, and will never admit they are blowing smoke up your ass.

when will this go on sale? i want one for 1200. do we have to get it installed there?dud look 4 post up

Well when they do go onsale, and if they are $1200 I will take two please! One for later!

$1200 dollars?**** sign me up now for 2 of them lol.they will most likely do what they did to me about my 6 speed tranny. I went in to see about getting a 6 speed and they said it would only be 2,300 dollars or something along that lines.but that was only if they installed it and the total would be almost 5 and i though fu** that .

well i just calld ther parts dept and YES THEY WILL SELL THE TURBO FOR 1,200$ BUT IT HAS TO BE PUT ON THER HE ALSO SED THAT IT WILL RUN FROM 6 TO MAYBE 8 BLS OF BOOST that ****in rules (75$ x5 hr)=375 maybe..................................

Wow.. that price is really low.
I'm wondering what's included in this package.

Anyways, 1200 is really cheap.

2 people have confirmed the price, im guessing from 2 different dealerships $1,200 for: turbo, intercooler, bov, throttle body and intake. I cant wait...

if its true, i'm all over that.

So, if they install the turbo on the car, would it be covered under warranty? And if so, for how long?? I wonder if all dealerships are going to be doing this... NV is a little far for me to go to get a turbo installed on my car.

It's HARD so im sure every hyundai dealership will have it, underwarrenty but who knows for how long :)

turbo with N20...hmmmm.... lol

ok...but i wouldn't recommend running past 8lbs on stock internals and stock compression..... i don't think your pistons will like being constatnly stressed when you hit your peak torque.

but 1200...damn, that is cheap. I want pics, i want to see the manifold (becasue this is most definately not a turbo header) and i also want to see what kind of turbo they are getting for this. This has got me quite intrigued.

edit - i am talking beta only though.

turbo + n2o - upgraded internals = expensive rebuild. just to let you know. you will melt/shatter stock pistons at 250whp. enjoy. your rods are good to close to 300.

edit - talking beta only as far as these numbers go

turbo + n2o - upgraded internals = expensive rebuild. just to let you know. you will melt/shatter stock pistons at 250whp. enjoy. your rods are good to close to 300.

edit - talking beta only as far as these numbers goMan where do you get this stuff? Can you prove this? What source did this info come from?

Please enlighten us with some real verifiable proof of your ascertions. I mean "who, what, when, where, how, and why". No more rumors, or I heard, or a friend said, or other BS.

How do you know the rods are good to 300 when the pistons shatter at 250? Quit this crappy rumor spreading.

this is for the Delta i havent heard anything about a beta turbo in here :) At least thats what the original post was saying ;)

this is for the Delta i havent heard anything about a beta turbo in here :) At least thats what the original post was saying ;)Wait til you hear the rumors about the Delta. They are even worse. Although Nextgen quieted most of them when he dynoed 246+ WHP.

well, if they do a delta turbo for that price...then hell yeah, GO GET IT!
if it is warrantied at all, then hell yeah!

Did nextgen figure out what the delta engine porblem is?

there's a delta engine problem?

Damn :shocked:

Ok, $1200 confirmed by 2 different dealerships (salesmen though)
227whp (rumour)
8lbs of boost (rumour)

Can we get cold, hard facts on this? I agree with stopping the rumour mill. It only succeeds in getting our hopes up, and our hopes are pretty much shattered at this point. PLEASE get us some facts!

BETA called the parts department he didnt talk to a salesmen, and thats the price and psi 6 to maybe 8 is what they told him :)

HEY RICE BOYS..can you please stop calling it N20...its N02..one part Nitrogen two parts oxygen. 2 oxygens make oxide.

hmm..what bout the beta :'(

Interesting..can someone who is able to stay up with Facts keep us posted on this?

HEY RICE BOYS..can you please stop calling it N20...its N02..one part Nitrogen two parts oxygen. 2 oxygens make oxide.
oh shut up. :P

atleast they arent saing "NOS"

I may call my dealership up tommorow see if i can get some more details(maybe). The parts guy there is pretty nice and seems to be knowledgealbe the little i have talked to him :)

All I can say is if this kit actually makes it to a dealer and is under $2000 it would be THE BEST bang for buck mod for any I4, hands down. If price was $1,200 + 375 for labor that's $1575 for a warrantied turbo kit installed by professionals :-\ . I won't get my hopes up, b/c in reality when it comes out it will probably be just the turbine for $1200 and add everything else in and it will be like $3,000.

um
not for I4 buddy, this is for the delta.

and sorry for the no2 typo.

Threads and posts about delta turbo: 10 million
Actual delta turbos installed and running in anyone's car: 0

I'm sick of rumors and "I heard this I heard that"...its getting old.

There is about people who actaully called a dealership or talked to them in person and were told a price and what engine its for. No one claimed they are running a turbo in here we are sitting back and waiting for more info on this. Wich is what people will hopefully check out tommorow at their dealerships and if your going to be so pessimisitc call and check yourself. Instead of coming in here and complaining call check and if there isnt one well then i guess you can come and say we are wrong or something ;)

delat= v6?>.... or are we talkin i-4?

There is about people who actaully called a dealership or talked to them in person and were told a price and what engine its for. No one claimed they are running a turbo in here we are sitting back and waiting for more info on this. Wich is what people will hopefully check out tommorow at their dealerships and if your going to be so pessimisitc call and check yourself. Instead of coming in here and complaining call check and if there isnt one well then i guess you can come and say we are wrong or something ;)

ok, don't jump on his case, it's jsut that there has been little to no actual market veriance in the status of delta turbos. Has anyone actually followed through on delta turbos at a reasonable price. As of yet, no. He is jsut trying to let you know htat we have seen this before, and not to put all your eggs in one basket here.

Ok now this is really getting my damn hopes up,if this is true it would be great price for a great package.My cousin works at the parts department for a hyundai dealership in harrisburg,pa.I will call him up in the morning and see if he can find out some hardcore facts,to get rid of all the bs in here.Ill post the response monday.

HEY RICE BOYS..can you please stop calling it N20...its N02..one part Nitrogen two parts oxygen. 2 oxygens make oxide.
Please go back to school, and stop calling guys Riceboys because your Education level is lower than you actually thought

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/n2o/n2oc.htm

I can give ya 50 more links as well


(http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question258.htm)This Question of the Day (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question258.htm) talks about how sodium chlorate acts as a way to store oxygen. You release the oxygen in sodium chlorate by heating it. It turns out that nitrous oxide (N20) works exactly the same way. When you heat nitrous oxide to about 570 degrees F (~300 C), it splits into oxygen and nitrogen. So the injection of nitrous oxide into an (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question258.htm)engine (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm) means that more oxygen is available during combustion. Because you have more oxygen, you can also inject more fuel, allowing the same engine to produce more power. Nitrous oxide is one of the simplest ways to provide a significant (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question258.htm)horsepower (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/horsepower.htm) boost to any gasoline engine.
(http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question258.htm)

that is from this page
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question259.htm

Sorry i appologize for that. Im just saying that i beleive when we know of HARD, and we know stuff is coming out so no need to go and complain about thsi thread and whats beening said about this turbo. Yeah the V6, have not a clue about the i4. I just think we all give our parts department a ring find out whats going on with the i4 and v6 and combined all of our info into one big infomation station :) Price, who makes it, hp...ect... just get all the info you can on it.

i like that idea...
but if everyone gets different answers.. thatl jus prove how silly hyundai is
i jus want some sold info... and numbers

damn it, i wanted to correct that n2o or no2 mistake...anybody who took chemistry would know the answer... sheesh...

N/A all the way!

We can just go with whatever answers have the majority :)

I thought there were turbo's for both cars coming out? Not just the V6, b/c as of SEMA Hyundai did not have a manufacturer for their V6 kit, whereas they had several for the I4

TeamSR (http://www.teamsr.org/Hyundai/03tiburon-v6turbo.html) has a turbo for the V6, but nobody has bought it yet, I don't believe. I know that GUDE makes a turbo for the I4, but what whe're talkin bout here is the HARD turbo for the V6.
We have known the HARD turbo was on the way for a while now, but no numbers or other info. This is the first we've heard of it. I just wanted everyone to be clear, with all the banter goin' on here.

Let me jsut say that if that dealership can get a V6 Turboi for 1200, I will drive the 2500 miles to get it

hell, me too. That would be amazing....
I could see it being cheaper, rather than more expensive too. Hyundai _does_ have the financial backing to make it possible, as mentioned before. I could also see them making ****loads of money on the installation. It's a typical marketing strategy - offer the product for cheap, and make it up in the end services.

When I was referring to both, I meant that HARD was making turbo's along w/ other parts for BOTH V6 and I4. The possibility of HARD using Gude's kit was discussed, but for this thread we are only considering a Hyundai back effort.

If team sr seems to have a nice little package for evo turbo for the delta,then why doesnt any one have it installed??Im going to order this,and put it in and see what i pulls,and then i will throw a dyno up for you guys.

There is someone who put the money down on the teamsr turbo but i dont remember who...they are expectiing to get in a little bit. :) Just ask that everyone who wants to know more about the v6 and i4 call the hyundai dealrship parts department monday and get all the info you can and post what you found out. Dont ask for both at the same time they might get confused lol. One at a time or just one, just a suggestion incase you get confused too ;)

well, dammit, which is it? n2o or no2? i am tto lazy to care so i will put it back to n2o

Yeah, I already paid my evo fusion kit off...I'm in contact with bradley and the crew at TeamSR for shipment now. I will have it put on just as soon as I get it and will have some numbers up for you soon after that, from the test drivers of it I hear very very possitive things, plus it's going to be upgradable. (deff a really really good price on it for all the parts included in the kit you get too)

Penguin

oh, and the reason it's not installed on anyones car yet is because it hasn't been released or shipped yet.

PenguinBebeau: how much for the teamsr kit?

i'll also try monday and see what's up with the HARD V6 turbo kit.

HP.com had these pics of the turbo kits displayed at the SEMA show here's the link since I suck at posting pictures..HP.com H.A.R.D Pics and others.. (http://hyundaiperformance.com/news/headlines/006/index.php)

Somebody said something about V6 turbo not having a company develop or produce it.. If you look at the V6 turbo it kind of looks like it says AIRWERKs on the piping I'm not 100% sure, It might be the old turbo kit from Area 51/Street Concepts car..That was said it was not connected..The pics show the kit almost complete, except a few peices..(intercooler and maybe others..) There looks to be pics of I4 turbo's too, but I don't know if that's also H.A.R.D.. 8)

Oh man that blue engine looks nice with that turbo on it :) and it looks like it does say werkz or werks on the pipeing

I think my NA plans will be changing if this pans out.

Oh yeah, I'm gonna run it wit da NAAWWWWWZZZZZZ!

and that would be N2O *******.

Hey guys this is the phon # to the parts dept use it if you dont think its the truth (1-702-565-1500) they might tell you more info than me or they might not good luck.

that would be an awsome deal if it falls threw. but i wonder what the power#'s would be

I think my NA plans will be changing if this pans out.

Oh yeah, I'm gonna run it wit da NAAWWWWWZZZZZZ!

and that would be N2O *******.



hey *******..its NO2....don't show your lack of knowledge

hey *******..its NO2....don't show your lack of knowledge

No, it's N2O. Two parts Nitrogen, one part Oxygen.

It's funny that you're stuck on "NO2" seeing as how a couple of links explaining how N2O works were posted a page or two ago. Here's some more links with references to "N2O":

http://www.idavette.net/hib/nitrous.htm
http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/NOS/GenInfo/History.html
http://www.nitrousexpress.com/faq.html

Also, to stay on topic, does anyone know if this kit will work with the Sonata, Santa Fe, and Optima? They can all use Alpine's S/C kit.

Ricers love t3h ch3mistry!

ok first of all people this is about the new turbo coming out for the Delta, not nitrous oxide, and if you check several websites for nitrous it calls it N2O,but other websites call it NO2, since its two parts nitrous and 1 part oxygen it would be correct calling it N2O,but what the Hell does it matter. You get the basic point either way, so discuss the turbo or go a post a thread about your opinion on nitrous.I wanna know the facts of this Da** turbo,not nitrous,thats why i came in here.

price on the EVO Fusion v6 turbo kit through TeamSR was $3295 as a preorder and as a member of teamsr.org if you buy it after release it will be $3995. Innovative Turbo Systems T3/T4, Griffin front mount intercooler, HKS BOV, J & S safeguard ignition systems , Innovative Turbo Systems wastegate, down pipe, up pipe, manifolds, B&M fuel pressure regulator, all piping and brackets, oil supply and return lines, MAS relocation kit, optional battery relocation kit, O2 sensor stimulator and CAI...I think those are all the parts.....deffinitely worth it, especially since it would be easy to plow a lot more power into with better internals.

Penguin

hey *******..its NO2....don't show your lack of knowledge

Suck it dick licker. It is N2O. ;)

Like it states above,

Formual is 2 parts N one part O.

Notation would be N with a little subscript 2, then an O making it correct to say N2O, so piss off and stay on topic you freakin tool.

Just please stay on topic...Everyone call your parts departments tommorow and get all the info you can on the I4 and V6 situation.

Suck it dick licker. It is N2O. ;)

Like it states above,

Formual is 2 parts N one part O.

Notation would be N with a little subscript 2, then an O making it correct to say N2O, so piss off and stay on topic you freakin tool.

hahahahahahahhaa
dick licker
hahahahahahahaha
score one for the good guys!

im goin monday to my hynundai dealer... and prob friday to another to see who knows what if anything

1200 would be nice but
that impossible isnt? hmm
well i dont care, but if really dealer do that then i will take that..

If this is true, and I hope so, the other aftermarket companies will have a hard time to compete with this. 1200 dollors and doesn't effect warrenty. That is pretty damn nice. Can't wait to see it.

What about other companies, like Honda? I'm sure they have supported aftermarket turbos. What is the cost of honda-supported turbo kits compared to other aftermarket companies? Are they cheaper? More expensive? More powerful? Less?

my original plans for(if i go that route) in f/i is using s/c. but if it is true, comes 2morrow, that hyundai will be selling it for $1200, i'm in for turbo.

*treads lightly off topic* i think y ppl still type up n2o as no2 is coz no2 looks like NOS. just my opinion.

Ok to Finnaly finish the nice offtopic crap


NO2= Nitrogen Dioxide got taht AC, Streetchark, see here is a nice link, now im sure both of you are smarter than all those stupid people with Ph.D.'s, but here is the link
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/environment/no2/


Now why dont both of you get some education before flaming others for being right

Oh man that blue engine looks nice with that turbo on it and it looks like it does say werkz or werks on the pipeing



That picture of the kit does, look nice, but I wonder if the intake manifold is stock and just painted..Hmmm what if you get NextGen's Stage 3 Intake and this kit, would that be possible. Or would the porting and polishing not work well with the turbo, I'm assuming it would help, but I'm not to familiar with technical jargin of turbocharging...I was thinking of getting Nextgen's stage 3 intake and the RIPP mods S/C since it is using a different styl of of S.C than the ALPINE..I wonder if that would help gain some more ponies, if RIPP every decides to do the kit...Just can't decide Turbo or S/C hmmm well it looks like it's gonna be awhile anyway, so better save up the pennies.. 8)

No, the stage 3 work work relly well with the turbo. That would be a sweet setup.

For the record, whoever asked a few pages back, the rods look to hold about 300WHP. Being that it s designed off Mitsu plans, I would say the rods can hold 300WHP... maybe a little less or more? Either way, NextGen will let us know ;)

Oh, and maybe it's so chaep because they exclude the piping? I know it sounds stupid, but no one has mentioned what kind of piping will come with the kit itself.... and if it was addressed, then my bad :p

Has anyone called their local dealer? Mine has no idea what i am talking about.

Called my dealership thats all he knew is that the rep had said something about performance stuff coming out. He said prolly be another month. Some dealerships check up on these things and some just dont care i guess.

1200 for what he listed in the original post is doable, but cheap. You could get all those parts from different places for about $1200. Note that does not include custom tubing, oil lines, etc.

I just dont get why hyundai would do all this and NOT mention it on their website....

At room temperature, N2O is quite unreactive with most substances, including alkali metals, halogens, and even ozone. It is therefore widely used as a propellant in aerosol cans in place of the CFCs which can damage the ozone layer. When heated sufficiently, however, N2O decomposes exothermically to N2 and O2.

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/n2o/n2oreact.gif

If this reaction occurs in the combustion chamber of an automobile, 3 moles of gas would be produced from 2 moles, providing an extra boost to the piston, as well as liberating more heat. It also has a number of other benefits. The increased oxygen provides more efficient combustion of fuel, the nitrogen buffers the increased cylinder pressure controlling the combustion, and the latent heat of vaporisation of the N2O reduces the intake temperature. Therefore N2O is occasionally injected into the fuel lines of racing cars to give more power to the engine and to give the car exceptional acceleration.

I emailed Jay at Lia Hyundai last night, and he got back with me today. He said that he hasn't heard anything about it himself, so he called the representatives of both HARD and BSE (not sure what that is though) to find out more info. But they told him they would call him back this Friday when their rep gets back from Canada. And here's a quote from his last email:

I just called the Hyundai dealer in that thread claims they can do a turbo kit from HARD for $1200. Turns out they said we know nothing at this time but hope to see things in the next couple weeks. Total BS. they Know nothing since there is no info yet.
So from what this says, it looks like we'll be waiting a little while more. Oh well, I guess that we'll eventually find out more about this.

OUT

Stay on topic forget about the N20 N02 stuff...it doesnt matter we all know what it is just leave it at that and stay on topic about the turbo please ;)

Rep back from Canada?!?? I wonder if that means Hyundai Canada will be in on this too? Oh, please oh please oh please!!!

hahaha...imagine...*looks at Chaotix*.....the HARD aftermarkets will only be in Canada. lol

Well, I was at my dealership today for my BS 15,000 mile service. My dealer is a little on the slow side, but they knew about HARD the last time I was there, so I asked if they heard anything new, but they haven't.

They just said that there is supposed to be a turbo and SC and other stuff, but they didn't know when or how much.

While I was waiting I was talking to a couple salesmen about an STI they had in the showroom. Both of them said they wanted to get a Tib with a bodykit, SC, intake, and other stuff in the showroom.

Well as i posted the other day i would call my cousin and see what was up with this 1200 dollar turbo kit. He said they have recieved nothing at all concerning this,and havent heard anything about this at all.But jim my salesman told me that he read something about it,and he is going to ask the rep when he comes around and see if he can get specs,prices,and availability on the item for us.ill keep posting

i can hear the air comming out of this ballon...

**** **** ****
those were obsenities
damn it

$1200 for a turbo kit is possible. Hondas do it all the time for a t3/t4 kit. the expensive part would be the piping for the first one. then you can just mass produce it. ive seen wholesale cost on some turbo kits in the 8-$900 range. I also heard that the I4 has many similarities to the 4g63 eclipse motor. so how hard would it be to adapt one of those turbo systems onto a tib? prolly not that hard.

It is most likely bs but I will wait and see. If it is true then good, if not, that is expected.

looks like nextgen's s/c is looking brighter and brighter as the days go by for me

Dont forget about the pretty noise with a turbo :) lol

My plans right now are NA but if this $1200 turbo pans out, my plans will change but that is the only way.

oh yes, the sound of turbo*daydreams*. oh well, when it becomes more affordable...n/a all the way.

people need to stop dreaming.. where is solo for the love of god..

A turbo with 8lbs of boost for $1575 installed!!! Sign me up!

Dealers like 30% mark-up so this is highly doubtful. But nice to dream about it in the meantime.

Even if $1200 is the dealer price, 30% markup is only $1560 + install, about $375, $1935.....hmmmm.....8lbs of boost installed for under $2000, I'm still in!!

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif oh god.

what's wrong?

seeing how the turbo kit in grease is well over 2000 USD for the I4 I dont imagine it will be this cheap

$1,200 for: turbo, intercooler, bov, throttle body and intake.

Allright guys, I'm so sorry to burst your bubble a little, but think about it really, CALM DOWN COUNT to 1 from 10... and think

If HYUNDAI (known as a cheap ass company that wouldn't even support aftermarket in the past), could sell a turbo kit for $1,200.00 don't you think it's more profitable for them, to build brand new v6 tibs with that turbo, and instead of charging 17k for a v6 they can charge about 21+ like an SRT... and make 10x's more money that way??? I saw with my own eyes how a tib was being sold with the SHARK RACING BODY KIT and they were charging $4,500.00 for the kit alone... We all know it cost much less, so you see my point about it...

2nd, if this kit even exists, looking at the contents of the kit, you are not getting the full piping/manifold/oil lines/wastegate(if not internal)/total new downpipe design and most important install... I'm sorry but like many have said, this sounds to me like a scheme to get people to purchase a new hyundai...

So I would say keep hoping if that's what you want, but don't get mad when others say we told you so...

i think i'ma stick to custom. aye spilner, yer gonna come down n help w/ it right?

yer gonna come down n help w/ it right?

I don't know who Spilner is so I'm guessing you were talking to me... Sure I'd help you... Edwin is almost done with his turbo... Is yours a v6 or 4cyl?

Allright guys, I'm so sorry to burst your bubble a little, but think about it really, CALM DOWN COUNT to 1 from 10... and think

If HYUNDAI (known as a cheap ass company that wouldn't even support aftermarket in the past), could sell a turbo kit for $1,200.00 don't you think it's more profitable for them, to build brand new v6 tibs with that turbo, and instead of charging 17k for a v6 they can charge about 21+ like an SRT... and make 10x's more money that way??? I saw with my own eyes how a tib was being sold with the SHARK RACING BODY KIT and they were charging $4,500.00 for the kit alone... We all know it cost much less, so you see my point about it...

2nd, if this kit even exists, looking at the contents of the kit, you are not getting the full piping/manifold/oil lines/wastegate(if not internal)/total new downpipe design and most important install... I'm sorry but like many have said, this sounds to me like a scheme to get people to purchase a new hyundai...

So I would say keep hoping if that's what you want, but don't get mad when others say we told you so...
Finally someone speaking some sence in this thread

spilner is adeihl, hehe. inside joke thing. i got a i4 ;D you can help me out too if u want =D
where in miami you live? i'm in kendall.

yeah...really.

lol, oh sorry, I live in KENDALL also...

sorry guys off topic, please PM me for further info? we can hangout if you're up for it

OK OK, back on topic, sorry sorry

And to stay on topic, here's a CUSTOM TURBO BUILD UP on a 4 cylinder that Edwin and I have been working on for his tib... This is getting the lowest prices we could find in various websites and with 1 partial sponsorship...

Now here is a price list of all the stuff.

OBX turbo t3/t4- $460 SSautochrome
OBX manifold - $250 SSautochrome
GREEDY blow off valve- Gift
WALBRO 255LPH fuel pump- $89 Extremepsi.com
35mm Tial wastegate- $215 SSautochrome
Greddy turbo timer - $85 Extremepsi.com
egt gauge- $145 Jegs
470cc Injectors- $259 Speedmotion
Pipping and intercooler - Partly sponsored by speed-factor
Boost gauge- $49 Jegs

which should out me at about $1552.

As you can see we're already at 1552, not including FPR(150-200 bux), DOWNPIPE(300), OIL LINES(50), clamps, etc.

you tell me how a v6 turbo is gonna be less than that.

PM sent =D

edit: i too apologize for the off-topic-ness of this.

Allright guys, I'm so sorry to burst your bubble a little, but think about it really, CALM DOWN COUNT to 1 from 10... and think

If HYUNDAI (known as a cheap ass company that wouldn't even support aftermarket in the past), could sell a turbo kit for $1,200.00 don't you think it's more profitable for them, to build brand new v6 tibs with that turbo, and instead of charging 17k for a v6 they can charge about 21+ like an SRT... and make 10x's more money that way??? I saw with my own eyes how a tib was being sold with the SHARK RACING BODY KIT and they were charging $4,500.00 for the kit alone... We all know it cost much less, so you see my point about it...
That's all up to the dealer. Body kits aren't a Hyundai corporate thing. Turbo's will be, but as an add-on to start. You could be right about them releasing a turbo'd tib in the future, but that's kind of beside the fact.

2nd, if this kit even exists, looking at the contents of the kit, you are not getting the full piping/manifold/oil lines/wastegate(if not internal)/total new downpipe design and most important install... I'm sorry but like many have said, this sounds to me like a scheme to get people to purchase a new hyundai...
still, if what they have already is $1200, that's a damn good deal, afaik.

So I would say keep hoping if that's what you want, but don't get mad when others say we told you so...
Dude, we ALREADY KNOW that H.A.R.D. is in cooperation to release a turbo for our car as an ADD-ON. We're debating the price here, not the fact if it's coming out or not. We already know it's coming out. And i learned long ago that hope is a lost cause. I won't get my hopes up again. Someone said their dealer told them the kit would cost $1200. We're in the process of trying to verify that.
The price does seem a little low, i agree. But like I asked before: does Honda have a supported company supplying cheap turbo kits for their cars? I think they do. Hyundai DOES HAVE the financial backing to make it happen. And if they're serious about the aftermarket support, like I think they are, a $2000 kit doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

sorry I wasn't talking about if it's coming out or not either, I was posting about the price... no way in hell is that the right price when it does come out... but hey if it is, then you can all shut me up, but I'm sure once they say what else has to be purchased to make it work, the price will be well over 2k... just my opinion sorry

I know that it may cost a normal person 1500+ to build their own turbo but for a corporation it might only cost them 800 maybe. They could build their own turbos or whatever, they might just make all their own parts. I doubt they would but they could. It will probably cost 2000+ to get it installed but that would be worth it. It probably be only 4psi, for that price. I guess we will have to wait and find out.

I know that it may cost a normal person 1500+ to build their own turbo but for a corporation it might only cost them 800 maybe. They could build there own turbos or whatever, they might just make all their own parts. I doubt they would but they could. It will probably cost 2000+ to get it installed but that would be worth it. It probably be only 4psi, for that price. I guess we will have to wait and find out.

Ok, I would like to see a setup built for 1.5k built by someone using new equipment, or even relialbe used for that matter. I don't see it. You'd have to skimp on the performance aspect a little bit to actually get that done, and then you'd almost have to guarantee a used turbo, and probably skimping on your safety issues like BOV and such.

also, MOST companies do not build their own turbos. they purchase them in bulk quantities.

Ok, I would like to see a setup built for 1.5k built by someone using new equipment, or even relialbe used for that matter. I don't see it. You'd have to skimp on the performance aspect a little bit to actually get that done, and then you'd almost have to guarantee a used turbo, and probably skimping on your safety issues like BOV and such.

also, MOST companies do not build their own turbos. they purchase them in bulk quantities.

Thats why i put 1500+, meaning it would cost no less then 1500. I know they wouldn't build their own turbos i just said that they could if they wanted to.

Hi Peter,

Thanks for getting in touch with me. We are very close to making further
H.A.R.D. Parts announcements. I'd like to talk with you further as more
parts become available so that you can share the information with your
members.

I'll keep your e-mail address on hand and when there is more H.A.R.D.
Parts news to share, I'll send it to you.

Kevin

Yes we r talking about price but I got a e-mail from HARD. Just wanted to share with u guys.

That's an email you receive from H.A.R.D.? Nice! I hope they do it before the end of the month. Gettin' impatient with waiting for info :)

Sweet that is awsome that you are in touch with HARD keep us up to date :D

Yay !! meanwhile i will be sitting with my thumb up my ass waiting for some numbers

Hi Peter,

Thanks for getting in touch with me. We are very close to making further
H.A.R.D. Parts announcements. I'd like to talk with you further as more
parts become available so that you can share the information with your
members.

I'll keep your e-mail address on hand and when there is more H.A.R.D.
Parts news to share, I'll send it to you.

Kevin

Yes we r talking about price but I got a e-mail from HARD. Just wanted to share with u guys.

Jesus, all that just to say nothing at all. And further HARD announcements? I didn't even think there was any official announcements at all.

as i was flipping through the pages of Import Racer! i happened to see a pic of H.A.R.D.'s booth during SEMA. and on the caption it mentioned about their new lines of products for Hyundai coming soon. from turbos to s/c, and other nice things for all Hyundai models.

Gotta admit the kit does look nice, to bad it doesn't have an intercooler.. Who knows what will be included, but it does look nice..There was an article somewhere from I think Motortrend or some other magazine that talked about H.A.R.D..and anouncements of releasing early 04...
http://hyundaiperformance.com/news/headlines/006/view_picture.php?&p=63

Damn...those blue heads look sexy!!

If you get a turbo what small things would you recommend doing? Plugs, wires...ect?

How many people actually took the 3 minutes to call their dealer like 4 people :( looking kinda sad...you call you never know what kinda info you might get..

Going turbo invloves a lot of things. If you plan on running low boost and ONLY low boost (not even the occasional spurt to like 10psi) then you can usually get away with minor fuel tuning and stuff like that. upwards of 300 whp, then you really should look at pistons and maybe evn rods since you are in there. At this point, you may want to look at your valvetrain too. Anyways, There are just too many variables in forced induction applications that you really should just go buy Maximum Boost by Corky Bell.

And one thing to remember:

It only takes ONE SPOOL at too high of boost to blow everything up. And this is NOT an exageration.

Anyways, to be on yopic. I honestly hope this otpion comes out for a fairly decent price. Competition is always good for every market and I hope this evolves into somthing great. Good luck everyone.

Ok, I would like to see a setup built for 1.5k built by someone using new equipment, or even relialbe used for that matter. I don't see it. You'd have to skimp on the performance aspect a little bit to actually get that done, and then you'd almost have to guarantee a used turbo, and probably skimping on your safety issues like BOV and such.

also, MOST companies do not build their own turbos. they purchase them in bulk quantities.

obviously you havent read the whole thread, i posted here http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=935&page=1&pp=25

about the guy in my car club who built his turbo for around 1500 and if you look closely you can see the spearco FMIC!! and yes he has blow off valve etc.....

lol, oh sorry, I live in KENDALL also...

sorry guys off topic, please PM me for further info? we can hangout if you're up for it

OK OK, back on topic, sorry sorry

And to stay on topic, here's a CUSTOM TURBO BUILD UP on a 4 cylinder that Edwin and I have been working on for his tib... This is getting the lowest prices we could find in various websites and with 1 partial sponsorship...

Now here is a price list of all the stuff.

OBX turbo t3/t4- $460 SSautochrome
OBX manifold - $250 SSautochrome
GREEDY blow off valve- Gift
WALBRO 255LPH fuel pump- $89 Extremepsi.com
35mm Tial wastegate- $215 SSautochrome
Greddy turbo timer - $85 Extremepsi.com
egt gauge- $145 Jegs
470cc Injectors- $259 Speedmotion
Pipping and intercooler - Partly sponsored by speed-factor
Boost gauge- $49 Jegs

which should out me at about $1552.

As you can see we're already at 1552, not including FPR(150-200 bux), DOWNPIPE(300), OIL LINES(50), clamps, etc.

you tell me how a v6 turbo is gonna be less than that.

Nice list Batlord.
That is a realistic price for NEW components hand picked. (for an i4 no less) I don't understand how people can think a dealer will do this for less (or even close to this price). Can you currently get any parts cheaper at the dealer than aftermarket? No. Hyundai may want to keep up with the trends but ONLY to make more money, not as a favour to us. Look at all the complaining in here about quality and warranty work so far. What happens when they start installing performance parts? They need a higher margin to cover complaints/repairs than the online company who sold you a tubo component to let you blew your own car up.

The way a dealer could do it for less than that price is very easy.

1) Mass production
2) MUST be installed at dealership to gain money back for install.

Think about the XBox. Each system cost (originally) $540 for microsoft to produce.

They sold it for $299 with a minimum purchase of 2 games @ $50 a peice. Microsoft being a software company knew they would make much more profit off the games than they would off of just selling the actual xbox unit. So in the end it would definitely be profitable for them even if they had to take an initial hit.

This could very well be the same situation with HARD. They'll offer a product below cost, but of course to maintain the "warranty" one would need to have it installed at a dealership at probably, $80 an hour for labor.

Makes sense right?

Nope. Microsoft sold the Xbox below cost due to continuous licensing fees from software developed over the life of the Xbox (razor blade theory). There will be no continous fees for Hyundai. Unless, they are major shareholders in oil companies. lol I don't even think Hyundai Coporate would see much if any $$$ from servicing dealers perform.

Seriously though, how many Tubo kits do you think they will sell? We have trouble putting together 10 people to buy anything over a hundred bucks on this "performance" oriented site. How many people have put their money down for one of the kits trying to be created? SR, Ripp etc..How many kits do you consider mass produced? I make OEM bumpers for a number of Manufacturers and we wouldn't even consider quoting on something under 10K units a year.

Just to throw this in, Hyundai is no stranger to turbocharging. Hyundai prolly has 17 crates of turbochargers lying around somewhere from old model runs...LOL

Just to throw this in, Hyundai is no stranger to turbocharging. Hyundai prolly has 17 crates of turbochargers lying around somewhere from old model runs...LOL


exactly

remember the turbo coupe?

take a look at that turbo fromthe sema show. its TINY!!! the exhaust wheel is like a damn doughnut. I bet they are leftovers. The exhaust piping in that picture is the stock manifold cut off and a bent piece of pipe welded to it. Thats a terrible hack job for a turbo setup, but its more than likely the kind you can expect from a dealer trying to do it for minimum cost.

F that. how in the hell is a Scoupe turbo going to work on a GT unles they rock a TT...but that isnt gonna happen. If they offer that turbo for the v6 count me out!

bah! I hate nay-sayers. I'm just gonna wait and see.

Nope. Microsoft sold the Xbox below cost due to continuous licensing fees from software developed over the life of the Xbox (razor blade theory).

That's exactly what I said.


Seriously though, how many Tubo kits do you think they will sell? We have trouble putting together 10 people to buy anything over a hundred bucks on this "performance" oriented site.

There would be WAY more turbos sold in this situation because this is a product that would be covered under warranty BY HYUNDAI. That was one of the biggest selling points of our car, and is something that none of the other manufacturers do directly. You can't just slap on a Alpin s/c, have something go wrong, and then bring it into the dealership to get fixed under warranty. This is going to be HUGE for H.A.R.D. There will be plenty more units moved.

There would be WAY more turbos sold in this situation because this is a product that would be covered under warranty BY HYUNDAI.

One thing I always here from you guys is WARRANTY, WARRANTY... Do you really think that Hyundai will warranty a car if it shows signs of racing... Have you not heard all the stories that some of the EVO people have been going thru, that some dealerships have gone as far as to send PEOPLE to the LEGAL RACETRACKS and write down license plates of evos that are racing... Why??? well in case they show up at the dealership wanting warranty work... why would a company as big as MITSU do that and not Hyundai... you shouldn't take Warranty into consideration when it comes to a turbo car... you all know what you want a turbo for and you will use it... yes they prolly will warrant the TURBO parts itself, but not the car/engine/etc., and well any other company offering a kit out there like speed-factor warranties their parts also...

so think about that.

Iv ben reading there post quitly to myself leting yall do throught yalls usual hoopes and dreams bashing about the new "¿TURBO¿" I was wondering since yall seem to be more knowledgable about the topic of the almighty boost. I was wondering if you had the kit installed if it was possable to turn the boost down when you didnt need it and turn it back up from inside the car? you know incase a civic need to be skooled. although we can already do it fine with out the boost. I was just wondering if there is a way to do it fron inside the car. thanks

Iv ben reading there post quitly to myself leting yall do throught yalls usual hoopes and dreams bashing about the new "¿TURBO¿" I was wondering since yall seem to be more knowledgable about the topic of the almighty boost. I was wondering if you had the kit installed if it was possable to turn the boost down when you didnt need it and turn it back up from inside the car? you know incase a civic need to be skooled. although we can already do it fine with out the boost. I was just wondering if there is a way to do it fron inside the car. thanks


First of all, where in the HELL did you go to school!? putting that aside they make a little something called a boost controller that does just that.

??? ??? ???

StreetShark thanks for your quick reply! I appreciate your responce even though you found it necessary to do a little bashing on my education. Im new to the whole turbo scene thats why I ask. Thank you

Don't mind street ahrks bashing. He tends to have issues with being productive, so everythime he says something helpful, I am guessing he feels he needs to balance that good deed with an insult. Take him with a grain of salt.

ehy stret sark wherre colud slammed get an buost controlar?

Well even though you are BEGGING me to insult you as well, i would assume to fight with me I wont. hence the spelling being incorrect Intentionally. You can get a boost controller from any pro shop.

Granted we dont know what exactly is going on with this turbo that is coming out. We have a price that has been shared by people that have talked to dealerships. We are not postive on what comes with the price tag. It may or may not be the actually pirce when its released but we are assuming thats what it is and in the mean time trying to find out for sure. So if you have so much doubts and speculations why dont you call some numbers, send some emails and find out for yourself and if the price is wrong then you can say you were right, but unless you have some info given to you from Hyundai or HARD. I guess you are just going on what you think, not what information has been given to you by the producer/provider of this turbo :) Just keep that in mind before you come here saying this and that cant be done.

Hear hear!

Sorry for the off topic in advance:

Streetshark. I must commend you on your exemplary behavior (as of late), even in the face of intentional provocation. Good job, and keep it up.

Now for the on-topic part:

Oh, and my information form HARD that told me they will not be producing any of their own products, merely acting as a middle mad from other companies to the dealerships, That alone tells me that there is no possible way to produce a complete turbo kit and install it for remotely close to 1200 dollars, especially on a v6, when you have to but from a producer or company that does the R&D. At least, there is no way to do this and make money.

I was at my dealership today and nobody there even knew about HARD in the shop.

Unless you they are able to get it for dirt cheap by buying mass quaintity. Look at it this way its like the a giant group buy. I still have not heard any other prices, so until then you cant say i know its not even close to 1,200. and a couple hundred for intsall. Granted 1,200 is really cheap but its the only $ amount that has been given from Hyundai or HARD. Not ment to be mean if thats the way it came out :) Not trying to make enemies just stating

I know that were talking about H.A.R.D's turbo setup, but didn't they also mention an S/C setup as well, I need to find that article..I don't know I'm kind of taking a big guess, but I'm thinking the turbo and the S/C setups are the same ones that Streetconcepts has put in thier tiburons.. The first Tiburon they displayed at the 2002 Sema show had a disconnected turbo setup. Recently they introduced another car with an S/C, but it is hard to find the actual s/c on it. I'm just wondering if these are the same kits..I'll try to call my dealer tomorrow and see if theres any info down here in the southwest about H.A.R.D.. 8)

i called mine...they have an idea of it coming but don't know when or how much or what is coming.

Well i asked a few hyundai dealerships in my area about this and they had no clue.Where are you guys getting this info from?I am wanting to believe this because i want a turbo but i would like to stay in the guide lines of my warranty,but i would still buy it even if it was 2000 vs 1200.I just think this is a hoax.April isnt for a few more months.

if that picture from the sema show is the turbo that HARD is going to offer then ig uarantee that it could be built for under 1200 dollars.

look at it. That turbo is miniscule. it would be half the cost of the entire kit. actually look at the kit. The exhaust manifolds are stock, the piping is tiny. theres no intercooler. Maybe they are planning on using some alcohol injection instead? if they are running low boost 4-6 lbs then they wouldnt need new injectors. even if it did need new injectors it would stillbe around 1200. It's a cheap pathetic turbo kit. that is IF that turbo setup from the sema pics Is the one that they will offer. it can be easily done for under 1200 dollars.

I hope that hard will have a s/c also. for my next Tib in 2006

Back to that whole (razor blade theory) w/t the xbox. The one thing I've experienced w/t my turbos is; they break, alot. If they dont they make your engine break. So initial expenses of parts and instalation can be done cheap for a large company w/t financial backing where there going to get you even with a warranty is in repairs ive had to replace my turbo twice in mine. 1st time for free (warrant) 2nd time cost me. approx. $950.00 .

Of course Im talking DSM w/t an eclipse there not reliable by any circumstance.

But thats my theory / opinion on how they'll be able to give us a turbo for $1200.00. :)

if that picture from the sema show is the turbo that HARD is going to offer then ig uarantee that it could be built for under 1200 dollars.

look at it. That turbo is miniscule. it would be half the cost of the entire kit. actually look at the kit. The exhaust manifolds are stock, the piping is tiny. theres no intercooler. Maybe they are planning on using some alcohol injection instead? if they are running low boost 4-6 lbs then they wouldnt need new injectors. even if it did need new injectors it would stillbe around 1200. It's a cheap pathetic turbo kit. that is IF that turbo setup from the sema pics Is the one that they will offer. it can be easily done for under 1200 dollars.

Well if this is true and they are comming out with a turbo,Hyundai wouldnt want to offer a turbo with enough power to possibly damage their engines.I would expect this turbo to be weak,and yeah that would answer all the questions of why its only 1200.

Even if it's a weaker turbo than others out there, I still might consider getting one. I really don't plan on replacing my internals for at least 5 years, so I think I'd be happy with a lower boost. After the warranty's out, I think I'll either go MAD crazy with performance mods, or buy another car anyways.

Even if it's a weaker turbo than others out there, I still might consider getting one. I really don't plan on replacing my internals for at least 5 years, so I think I'd be happy with a lower boost. After the warranty's out, I think I'll either go MAD crazy with performance mods, or buy another car anyways.

I feel the same about this.If its true(still dont believe any of this)I just bought a 2004 GT tib 6 speed,So i am concerned about warranty,so even if its a small boost for a decent price im ok with that.Theres always other mods to boost hp without totally voiding your warranty.Im not a speed freak,but i do like having more power then stock.

One thing I always here from you guys is WARRANTY, WARRANTY... Do you really think that Hyundai will warranty a car if it shows signs of racing... Have you not heard all the stories that some of the EVO people have been going thru, that some dealerships have gone as far as to send PEOPLE to the LEGAL RACETRACKS and write down license plates of evos that are racing... Why??? well in case they show up at the dealership wanting warranty work... why would a company as big as MITSU do that and not Hyundai... you shouldn't take Warranty into consideration when it comes to a turbo car... you all know what you want a turbo for and you will use it... yes they prolly will warrant the TURBO parts itself, but not the car/engine/etc., and well any other company offering a kit out there like speed-factor warranties their parts also...
so think about that.

Dude, you're completely missing the point. COMPLETELY. Obviously if a car shows signs of racing, it will not be warranteed. Are you saying that ust because a car has a turbo in it it's going to be raced? That's retarded. Then I guess every car that comes with a turbo in it shouldn't be warranted then right? Wrong. This is something that will be very beneficial to those that are afraid to lose their warranty, but would like to get some extra power out of their car. It's very likely this turbo will not be high output in order to stay stable and warranty safe, but that is a trade off for being able to keep the warranty. Any potential buyers would probably much rather sacrifice power for reliability and warranty assurance.

you say this
Im not a speed freak,but i do like having more power then stock.
until you go turbo... :D :) trust me, unless you have great will power like me... hehehe

you say this

until you go turbo... :D :) trust me, unless you have great will power like me... hehehe
Dont get me wrong if someone temps me i will race,but im not the type that goes out wanting to race someone.I just want either turbo or S/C for bragging rights..lol might sound stupid,but ive owned a few tibs,and lets just say tibs looked good thats about it.But hey i loved my 97 tib,and i never had any major problems with it.I could have went out and bought a faster car,but i missed my old tib,and decided to buy a new one with attensions of hooking it up as much as possible.

Excuse me BLIZZZ, but I think you're missing my point, as you say "COMPLETELY"...

If you're car has a turbo from factory and it's going for a regular tune up and it might need warranty work, then it will be covered...

BUT and this is what you're missing on my point... if all of the sudden out of nowhere your clutch/tranny/flywheel/pistons/rods/fuel pump/etc might go wrong then you better be prepared with a great story... cause guess what will be their first reason as to why it broke??? Especially if you're between 16-22 years of age... so hopefully you understand my point now, cause well if you don't than "That's retarded."

I aggree with Bat Lord that is exactly right. its just gonna be stero typing of all kinds when you walk in with something major broke ad they dont want to take the time and money out of their pocket to fix it. Thats why you gotta be in goo with your parts and service guys. That why im thinking of getting a turbo. Not only did they both say i needed to get one but that they would put it in nocharge to me. {they both are involved in racing in some form or another.} plus He said is any part breaks like a pisto or throttle body" anything not aftermarket" that he would warrenty it. I thinks that sweet

NEWS!
Ok, I just checked out Sport Compact National's website, and they make mention of the aftermarket products that will be included:
"Fortunately, an aftermarket solution is on its way to Hyundai dealerships across the U.S. and Canada. Bill Smulo Engineering will offer turbochargers, camshafts, headers and more to Hyundai enthusiasts. See our SEMA Show coverage in the next SCN for details."

I'm not sure what "Bill Smulo Engineering" is, but Turbo's, Cams, and Headers, are mentioned. Think this is H.A.R.D.??? I wonder what the "more" is though? Be sure to pick up the next copy of Sport Compact National to find out the details!

Ediot: the link http://www.sportcompactnational.com/index2.htm (Click on "Latest Issue" and scroll down to the "OEM" Heading)

Ediot #2: Okay, I did a little more digging, and found this: http://gaugemagazine.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=67. This IS H.A.R.D. Parts. They will be offering a LOT for our cars:

* Turbocharger kits for the Tiburon and Elantra
* Pistons
* Throttle bodies
* Camshafts
* Adjustable cam gears
* Headers
* Cat-back exhaust systems
* Underdrive pulleys
* Ignition upgrades
* Lightened aluminum flywheels
* Interior dress-up accessories
* Wheels
* Coil-over shock and lowering spring systems
* Sway bars
* Stainless steel braided brake lines
* A really trick hydraulic suspension system
* Backup sensors

Bill Smulo Engineering is BSE, he is the one doing all the actual work for the aftermarket parts.

Ok wonderful..now that the Who/What/Why is answered...WHEN is the next thing to find out!

GoFisch:
Well, if I knew THAT in the first place, a lot of questions about what's being developed would have been answered a long time ago! Thx though :)

GoFisch:
Well, if I knew THAT in the first place, a lot of questions about what's being developed would have been answered a long time ago! Thx though :)


ohhh..noo. Dont you quit on me now your wonderful little bastard! You get right back onto Google and you get me a date!

LOL! I emailed the editor of the magazine. It's doubtful, but maybe he'll shed some light on this. I called the number listed in the second link I provided, but some chick answered, and didn't have a clue what I was talking about. I'm guessing it was a wrong number...
It was REALLY nice to see that it's coming to CANADA though!!!

Finally there is light!!!!! Oh yes and ill take one of everything please ;)

hi everyone i was thinking of buying a tib so was brousing your forums. anyways i would for concord hyundai. and the question on how soon is.. very soon couple of our techs have already gone to classing informing us on all the new info on the vehicles and that parts coming out soon. from the sound of it anyday

Figures i get a responce from Hyundai,and someone digs up the info we been waiting to hear.Anyway probably not needed now but here is the email recieved.
Hello,
Frank forwarded me your email on the tib turbo.
OK, what is known is, Hyundai will have turbo's and other various bolt-on performance parts availible soon. In November of last year we were told these parts were to be availible in January of this year. In January they pushed the date back to "this spring" . The price told to us by Hyundai in November was "around $1200.00" for the turbo. Since November we have had no other information forwarded to us. Any inquiries I have made with Hyundai has resulted in vague answers. I have an e-mail group set up, and will add your address to it if you like.

Jon Gabler
Parts Manager
Henderson Hyundai

Well hell, we're getting somewhere!! Time to start thinking positive for me.

I started thinking positive with the first post :D

well.... awesome!!

So they said $1200 in November. Its probably up to $2000 now. Ooops, did I rain on someones parade. lol Chaotix, you didn't ask. lol

I talked to the parts guy at my dealership and he knos all about it, he said they will have cams, pistons, rods, manifolds, turbocharger systems, supercharger systems. He already has exhaust and Intakes and headers. He is also a tuner and he has a salvaged tiburon that he is wanting ot drop the 3.5L motor into it. And he said he will wanrranty any part he installs.

Yay turbo! Yay Yay Yay. I wonder if we can finance these parts :) I gotta start saving my money.

Hearing about all the add on WARRANTIED products is awesome!!

Has there been any mention about a LSD for the six speed?

Hearing about all the add on WARRANTIED products is awesome!!

Has there been any mention about a LSD for the six speed?


That's a good question. I hope they have an LSD.

from what i was told if you get something like a turbo your warrenty may be droped to the california state minimum which is 3yr 36k.

I'm wondering about the warrany now.... makes no mention of it in the article..

Well if they drop the warranty on their own products then they might as well not even bother trying to market this.I sure as hell wouldnt want it on record i voided my warranty.I would rather play it safe and get a S/C and if something should happen try and make something up as to why or how it could have happened to keep my warranty.Just doesnt make any sense they would offer something and tell you it will void your warranty,that they use to sell their cars in the first place.

Good point. I think I agree with you.

hmm keep the info coming...maybe by the time something is out I will be able to afford it. I don't know why everyone is arguing so much over price...I would wager that most of the people that want a turbo, couldn't afford the $1200 price. Don't get me wrong I will think much more about a turbo if I could have one for that price instead of $4k. Just figured everyone else on NT.com posted about this, so I should too. Oh yeah some of you guys need to learn how to read and write. Gawd some of the spelling makes my eyes hurt

Well if it does drop down to 36k im already over :( So hopefully warrenty wont change

Well if it does drop down to 36k im already over :( So hopefully warrenty wont change

On a turbo, with how easy it is to modify what boost is being ran, a warranty at all would be more than lucky.

They'd be stupid NOT to offer warranty. There are better products out there, so they need to compete SOMEhow. I don't think Hyundai would be that stupid and not offer a warranty on this.

They'd be stupid NOT to offer warranty. There are better products out there, so they need to compete SOMEhow. I don't think Hyundai would be that stupid and not offer a warranty on this.


Never underestimate the stupidity of a company that wired a sub backwards!

hahah yeah....

Just received an email from the editor at Sport Compact National magazine:


Hi Kolt
I'm not sure about the warranty aspect, but I do have more details about the stuff that makes up the HARD Parts lineup. Here's the info that's going into our next issue:

"Rejoice! oh Tiburon dudes, because HARD Parts By BSE (Bill Smulo Engineering) introduced its new line of Hyundai performance parts and accessories at the 2003 SEMA Show. Keep your fingers crossed, because these goodies might even be sold at Canadian Hyundai dealerships. A selection of mods for four- and six-cylinder models includes turbochargers, pistons, cams, headers, pulleys, exhausts, flywheels, coil-overs, sway bars and rims."

I was in contact with a Hyundai Canada rep, and he said they are also working on bringing the HARD Parts to Canadian dealerships, but nothing has been finalized yet. If the parts don't make it across the border, maybe Canadian Hyundai owners can drive Michigan or New York or Washington, and get a turbo installed there. Then when you go through customs, and they ask, "Do you have anything to declare?", you can rev your engine and yell, "Yeah Baby!"

Phill Parker
Editor, SCN
editor@sportcompactnational.com (editor@sportcompactnational.com)

Looks like it might make it to Canada, but nothing is confirmed yet. Let's all cross our fingers! Funny guy too :D

nice work...
youre workin like a lab rat.. keep it up

HEY RICE BOYS..can you please stop calling it N20...its N02..one part Nitrogen two parts oxygen. 2 oxygens make oxide.

dude, your wicked retarded. its two Nitrogen's to each oxygen molecule. Nitrogen has a 1+ charge and Oxide's have 2-. Therefore there are TWO nitrogens required to satisfy the oxygen :-P

Stop trying to correct someone so quickly before you can figure out what a tard you just made yourself look like

dude, your wicked retarded. its two Nitrogen's to each oxygen molecule. Nitrogen has a 1+ charge and Oxide's have 2-. Therefore there are TWO nitrogens required to satisfy the oxygen :-P

Stop trying to correct someone so quickly before you can figure out what a tard you just made yourself look like



Do everyone a favor and stop bringing up sh!t thats like 30+ posts old. Why dont you get back to that retarded site of yours.

I just got done readin all 9 pages of this thread and all i can say is damn and holy crap. If u guys r so persistent on this N2O thing then start a thread in the fight category. This thread is about turbos, not spellin, not N2O. Keep on topic !!

Anyway, I'm likin this too, i was planning on buyin the Gude turbo kit come next fall, but this is sounding a lot better and it offers a warranty. I wanna know when this comes out cause i have a friend who works in Hyundai dealership here who could help me hook it up. Keep the info comin...........

Yes please leave the Nitrious stuff alone.. :) We have all moved onto new things like all this nice info we have been getting about the HARD stuff..

the nitrous stuff has been left alone for awhile... why bring it back up.. take oyur own advice stay on topic

So, just to re-cap:
H.A.R.D. is developing a number of parts, turbo for V6 included. No mention of a supercharger.
H.A.R.D. is a in cooperation with BSE (Bill Smulo Engineering) to provide these.
There are talks going on between H.A.R.D. and Hyundai Canada to bring these parts to Canada, but nothing confirmed.
There is question as to the warranty, price, and date of avaliability. These I will try to bring to you as I find out. If you can, please call your dealership to find out more information. Heck, try the Hyundai Corporate office. You never know.

cha youre the man

NEWS!
Ok, I just checked out Sport Compact National's website, and they make mention of the aftermarket products that will be included:
"Fortunately, an aftermarket solution is on its way to Hyundai dealerships across the U.S. and Canada. Bill Smulo Engineering will offer turbochargers, camshafts, headers and more to Hyundai enthusiasts. See our SEMA Show coverage in the next SCN for details."

I'm not sure what "Bill Smulo Engineering" is, but Turbo's, Cams, and Headers, are mentioned. Think this is H.A.R.D.??? I wonder what the "more" is though? Be sure to pick up the next copy of Sport Compact National to find out the details!

Ediot: the link http://www.sportcompactnational.com/index2.htm (Click on "Latest Issue" and scroll down to the "OEM" Heading)

Ediot #2: Okay, I did a little more digging, and found this: http://gaugemagazine.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=67. This IS H.A.R.D. Parts. They will be offering a LOT for our cars:

* Turbocharger kits for the Tiburon and Elantra
* Pistons
* Throttle bodies
* Camshafts
* Adjustable cam gears
* Headers
* Cat-back exhaust systems
* Underdrive pulleys
* Ignition upgrades
* Lightened aluminum flywheels
* Interior dress-up accessories
* Wheels
* Coil-over shock and lowering spring systems
* Sway bars
* Stainless steel braided brake lines
* A really trick hydraulic suspension system
* Backup sensors


jus postin this so this isnt forgotten

yeah...posting for whoring...lol

I emailed the contact address on hyundaiusa.com and nobody replied. I bet the turbo that they offer will be small and cheap if they really sell it for $1200.

I emailed the contact address on hyundaiusa.com and nobody replied. I bet the turbo that they offer will be small and cheap if they really sell it for $1200.
It might be small and cheap,but if they honor there warranty its worth it.Personally i would rather gain 25+ HP and have a turbo that isnt going to blow my engine,then a turbo with 50+ hp gains that could possible blow the engine and no warranty besides the turbo.just my opinion i know alot of you guys are speed freaks and more power to ya if you dont mind taking the risks.

well said.

Ok im goinmg to lock this because well..... it jsut seems to impossible and will get everyones hopes up, please feel fre to start a new thread when the Info is better