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Here is the same updated under the assumption that Hyundai was just sloppy w/their '03-'04 press release specs:
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Re: Definitive Top Speed Of Tibs

172mph?! Go auto go!

another max speed thread..

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Re: Definitive Top Speed Of Tibs

Calculated Top Speed in: 1st 41mph
2nd 76 mph
3rd 117 mph
4th 165 mph
rev 47 mph
Calculated on http://www.catherineandken.co.uk/sti/tyres.html thats what they gave me


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Calculated Top Speed in: 1st 41mph
2nd 76 mph
3rd 117 mph
4th 165 mph
rev 47 mph
Calculated on http://www.catherineandken.co.uk/sti/tyres.html thats what they gave me
That's what I got for the 4spd V6, so as you can see they all give the same info (just some round-off the answer more than others).
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172mph?! Go auto go!

another max speed thread..
Haha, yeah. That's why I labeled it "The Definitive" Top Speed thread...to try and end the repetitive madness.


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Do you have a link to these road tests? Cause I know Road and Track never did a piece on the Tiburon (I've had a subcription to them for the past 10+ years). Also, I'd have to venture to say that if one of the magazines did list that the Tiburon is electronically limited to 137 mph, I don't understand how THIS MANY NT.com members could claim otherwise. Personally I've never heard of a governor, so I'm interested to see who says there is one at 137 mph..
Well, I currently have subscriptions to Road and Track, Car and Driver, and Automobile. Whichever is the one that has a "Road Test Summary" in the back of every issue (can't remember which one it is at the moment) was the one I remember as having listed the top speed as 137 with a footnote stating it was electronically controlled. I just noticed that in the most recent issue that they removed the Tiburon from the list (probably because it was the '03 they tested, likely in 2002 sometime).

Anyway, it doesn't really matter that much to me what the top speed is, just curious as to why a car magazine would list this if it's not true.

Oh--I checked and it's in Road and Track. But, like I said, as of the August (or September) issue the Tib is no longer on the list. I'm not sure if it's on the mag's website, but I don't think it is.

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Ok, having read this thread: Governor? how fast can my 2005 V6 SE go? ... I've noticed a lot of people are confused on what the top speed of their Tib is and what they've obtained.

I posted up this information a long time ago back when NT.com had one of it's "top speed" thread stretches (another newbie would start a top speed thread like every other day...as if 20 of them wasn't already enough)

STOCK TIB Gear Ratios
____________2.7L V6_______________2.0L
____6-speed__5-speed___4-speed___4-speed (5 spd for I4 is the same as for V6)
____manual___manual____auto_____auto

1st___3.15:1___3.46:1____2.84:1____2.84:1
2nd_ _1.94:1___2.05:1____1.53:1____1.53:1
3rd___1.33:1___1.39:1____1.00:1____1.00:1
4th___1.06:1___1.06:1____0.71:1____0.71:1
5th___0.86:1___0.84:1
6th___0.70:1
Rev_ _3.00:1___3.25:1____2.48:1____2.48:1
FD___4.43:1___4.06:1____4.04:1____4.41:1

Tire Diameter - (215/45/17) = 24.62 inches
Max RPM = 6500

6spd V6
Top Speed capable of reaching in 6th gear at 6500rpm = 153.52716538203458 mph

5spd V6
Top Speed capable of reaching in 5th gear at 6500rpm = 139.59879775090584 mph

4spd AUTO V6
Top Speed capable of reaching in 4th gear at 6500rpm = 165.97676051097798 mph

5spd I4 (assuming 205/55/16 tires)
Top Speed capable of reaching in 5th gear at 6500rpm = 141.07303363292192 mph

4spd AUTO I4 (assuming 205/55/16 tires)
Top Speed capable of reaching in 4th gear at 6500rpm = 153.6570131588633 mph

How did I come about this info? Well it's simple, and anybody can do these calculations themselves any time they want. Just open Google and type "top speed calculator". There are MANY sites that have little applets set up to make finding top speed, how fast your car goes in a certain gear and at a certain RPM, etc. very easy. Now how do they work?

Well, your vehicle's top speed (theoretically) is determined by a combination of the drive tire's diameter, the car's final drive ratio (or rear axle gear ratio for RWD), the transmission gear ratio, and finally the engine's speed (RPM's). These factors combined allow you to determine the fastest speed your vehicle can theoretically obtain on a flat surface. Now why do I say theoretically? Well, there are also inhibiting factors that prevent your vehicle from reaching it's full potential. These factors include, but probably aren't limited to: vehicle weight, aerodynamic drag, road/tire surface (friction), and vehicle power.

First and foremost, the vehicle must have enough power to overcome those other forces working against motion (the weight, friction, and drag). If the vehicle doesn't generate enough power for the way it's geared, it will never max out the potential of the transmission/axle and we'll say the vehicle is drag limited. As speed increases, one of these forces grows considerably...the aerodynamic drag. It becomes much harder to move air out of the way at 120 mph then it is at 40 mph. You may be able to accelerate in 6th gear from 50-70 mph in only 7 secs, but to go from 110-130 mph it will take you like 15 secs (these are just guestimations). That's because at 65 mph it takes about 12 hp to overcome drag. But at 120 mph, it takes 75 hp just to overcome air's resistance.

So neglecting these inhibiting forces, the top speeds provided above are the theoretical maximum speeds you can obtain w/STOCK Tibs assuming they make enough power. Why is the word STOCK important? Because once you start changing things about your Tib, such as getting bigger wheels/tires, getting a new transmission or drive gear, or raising the rev limiter, you increase your vehicles potential for top speed. Adding a supercharger to a stock Tib w/o changing the wheels/tires, transmission, or raising the rev limiter WILL NOT INCREASE YOUR TIBS TOP SPEED POTENTIAL. It will make it easier to obtain the vehicle's top speed, and may make it reach it's full potential if the vehicle was previously drag limited, but it will not increase the theoretical top speed.

So, if you claim to have obtained higher top speeds then those posted above w/a Tib that has STOCK transmission, drive gear, wheels/tires, and rev limiter, then you were either on a downhill slope and/or had the engine past its 6500 rpm redline. I know my 6spd has a rev limiter at about 6500 rpm, so you couldn't go much past it. Maybe you "thought " your car was going faster when you glanced down at the speedo...which itself may be inaccurate since on webtech I believe the tolerance of the speedometer is somewhere in the neighborhood of +- 2-3%....which in the 150 mph range 2-3% equates to being off by 3-5 mph.

Finally, for those of you who still don't understand how a 4spd AUTO Tib has a higher top end than the 6spd, if you lower your gear ratios (whether final drive or the transmission gear), you increase your top end for that gear combination. For the 6spd it's a combination of a 4.43:1 final drive w/a 0.70:1 6th gear. For the Auto it's a 4.04:1 final drive w/a 0.71:1 4th gear. 4.43 x 0.7 = 3.101. 4.04 x 0.71 = 2.868. 2.868 is LOWER than 3.101. Therefore the Auto has the higher top end w/the same 215/45/17 tires. If you don't believe me, go hear and find out for yourself.
http://www.mustangii.net/topspeed.asp
Enter in different gear ratios, etc. In real world, my 6spd cruises at 80 mph in 6th at 3400 RPMs. This calculator will say that exact same thing.

THE BOTTOM LINE ABOUT TOP SPEED: WHO CARES!
You claim to have reached 140 mph and this other person claims 145 mph... big freakin deal! Get a life and enough pointless TOP SPEED THREADS!
Thank you.
153 mph with the 6 speed is a little slow, because you don't actually see fuel cut until about 6800 rpm (I actually just set my shift light on Friday night- 6750 rpm). I believe I calculated the top speed to be 157 and change with the stock tires. I've had my car up there a couple of times, as well, and it looks like my speedometer is pretty accurate at that speed.
I thought it was interesting, anyway. The people who ruin these threads are usually the ones who have no clue what they're talking about anyway.
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Yes... I've been to 145mph on the freeway, Evan just showed his video doing 147 with a fully laden car, etc etc...
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The guy I assume you are talking about, was it Bluegtv6 or something, who recently dynoed and he and RavensFan mentioned how he got up to like 160 mph.
164.8 mph actually.
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Re: Definitive Tiburon Top Speed Reference Thread

I am willing to do the complicated science on this on guys.....

This week I will punch my wife in the mouth.. Than use that excuse to rush her to Landstuhl Medical Center here in Germany. There is only one way to get there from Wiesbaden, Autobahn 3. I will wrap the car out full throttle with a video camera on the road/cluster so there will no longer be any arguments what the 03' V6 6SPD can do....

I hate to beat a b*tch, but in the name of science, i think it has to be done....lmao

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147 Is fun... how I love highway 70 between Columbia MO and STL. I just love the adrenaline rush, but its not for the faint of heart, your car will vibrate and get pretty loud. I definitly freaked my friend out in the passenger seat...
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Re: Definitive Tiburon Top Speed Reference Thread

I have a six speed V6 05 model and I was up to 145mph.
I bought this car so I could have a six speed to be capable of reaching well above 145mph
I am about a year away from this happening but when it does I will post it up here with a speed
of hmmmm lets start with 180mph and see how she drives first then try and break 200mph
I love the six speed because it has the potential to go well above 145mph.
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lol, break 200 hahaha
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^^^^whats so funny......
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and ill be dynoing WITH VIDEO after my car gets out of the shop. expect 180+
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i dont care what it can do at a dyno, i dont consider that the top speed.
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and having the car on a dyno doesnt mean your going 180. it just means you can spin your wheels are a rate of that speed
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I have a six speed V6 05 model and I was up to 145mph.
I bought this car so I could have a six speed to be capable of reaching well above 145mph
I am about a year away from this happening but when it does I will post it up here with a speed
of hmmmm lets start with 180mph and see how she drives first then try and break 200mph
I love the six speed because it has the potential to go well above 145mph.
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I see your knowledge is limited…….. Even if you would put a biggest turbo, nitrous, cams, raise your redline, and take a **** for the weight reduction, you will never go pass 170 on the stock 6-spd. gearbox. There is no more room left on the gear to accelerate.

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Re: Definitive Tiburon Top Speed Reference Thread

I know; and am glad we are still watching this topic.This is possible if your modify the gears ratio?
I could add a jet engine and still top out at 165 with the stock gear ratio.Now if we modify the gearing ratio can you not reach the speeds above 200 with a six speed transmission?If I had a long enough drag strip and no wind resistance and the gear ratio changed with a 45 HP motor can you break that 200+barrier?
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no you still need alot of power to get there
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Re: Definitive Tiburon Top Speed Reference Thread

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I know; and am glad we are still watching this topic.This is possible if your modify the gears ratio?
I could add a jet engine and still top out at 165 with the stock gear ratio.Now if we modify the gearing ratio can you not reach the speeds above 200 with a six speed transmission?If I had a long enough drag strip and no wind resistance and the gear ratio changed with a 45 HP motor can you break that 200+barrier?
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Yes and no....

With no wind resistence yes. But unless your running in a vacuum you wont hit it with out more HP then a stock Tib can produce. You do need new gear ratios which I am sure you are pondering the same as a couple of other members have.....I will likely do that myself in the future. But 160- 190 is alot easier than 190-200. 190 seems to be a magic number that is hard to break. Hell look at all the exotics with insane hp and styling, only a handful have broken 200. Not saying you cant but you need a hell of a boost in the balls department in addition to new gears.......... good luck either way


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Yes and no....

With no wind resistence yes. But unless your running in a vacuum you wont hit it with out more HP then a stock Tib can produce. You do need new gear ratios which I am sure you are pondering the same as a couple of other members have.....I will likely do that myself in the future. But 160- 190 is alot easier than 190-200. 190 seems to be a magic number that is hard to break. Hell look at all the exotics with insane hp and styling, only a handful have broken 200. Not saying you cant but you need a hell of a boost in the balls department in addition to new gears.......... good luck either way
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Re: Definitive Tiburon Top Speed Reference Thread

umm they have dynos that tell real speed off the load on them, ive seen them, i wont be going off my speedo, ill show you the dyno chart AND the top speed reached.
they are called like ebby dynos (or somthing where they can simulate load on the wheels and have it act like wind resistance etc. etc.)
whatever im overexplaing myself, its possible.
with enough money ANYTHING is possible, it just so happens that you have to pay to play, me going 200mph is what kept me from doing a Sniper at the time, its all about what you as the driver want.
i want 200 and ill do it, you ALL will see.
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Yes and no....

With no wind resistence yes. But unless your running in a vacuum you wont hit it with out more HP then a stock Tib can produce. You do need new gear ratios which I am sure you are pondering the same as a couple of other members have.....I will likely do that myself in the future. But 160- 190 is alot easier than 190-200. 190 seems to be a magic number that is hard to break. Hell look at all the exotics with insane hp and styling, only a handful have broken 200. Not saying you cant but you need a hell of a boost in the balls department in addition to new gears.......... good luck either way
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