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Old car battery keeps dying... 03-02-2010 , 07:38 PM

hey, hope everyone is well.
i have a problem with my car/battery and i was wondering if someone could help out...

about 2 months ago my battery died for the first time, i didnt think i left anything on but it happens so i got a new battery and moved on. then about 3 weeks ago my car died again, i didnt think i left anything on again but it died, so i jumped it and moved on again. now yesterday my car died AGAIN and i am positive i didnt leave any lights on or anything bc i have been extra cautious knowing that the battery died twice before recently... is there anything else that could be wrong? any ideas would help. thanks guys
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-02-2010 , 07:51 PM

Do you have any sound system things installed? My amp kept pulling power even though the car was off and the alternator went because of it. Also make sure the termanels are really clean and the clamps are tight on them. If there isnt a good connection between the 2 then youll have that trouble.
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-02-2010 , 08:01 PM

Have you had the alternator tested? That's the first culprit to the battery dying. The largest indicator of your alternator not working at all is both battery and ebrake light on your cluster will be lit up, however if the alternator is working but not putting out the proper voltage, this signal may not show up.

If your alternator is only semi functioning and not putting out enough voltage, the car is possibly draining power from the battery to compensate for the lack of voltage the alternator is putting out. Once the car is started, the alternator should power EVERYTHING including partially recharging the battery, however if it wont put out enough voltage, it is unable to restore the power the battery uses during startup. (Which is the highest power draining process your battery encounters)

Hope some of that rant helps. Post up again if the alternator is putting out the right voltage (any shop with a code reader can tell you) and if the alternator isn't the problem, i have another few ideas you can try =)

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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 11:03 AM

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Have you had the alternator tested? That's the first culprit to the battery dying. The largest indicator of your alternator not working at all is both battery and ebrake light on your cluster will be lit up, however if the alternator is working but not putting out the proper voltage, this signal may not show up.

If your alternator is only semi functioning and not putting out enough voltage, the car is possibly draining power from the battery to compensate for the lack of voltage the alternator is putting out. Once the car is started, the alternator should power EVERYTHING including partially recharging the battery, however if it wont put out enough voltage, it is unable to restore the power the battery uses during startup. (Which is the highest power draining process your battery encounters)

Hope some of that rant helps. Post up again if the alternator is putting out the right voltage (any shop with a code reader can tell you) and if the alternator isn't the problem, i have another few ideas you can try =)
well my cousin is a mechanic and he tested the alternator... its putting out 14 volts which is pretty much the perfect voltage. so it has to be something else... i just dont know what else it could be... what are these other ideas? lolol
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 11:18 AM

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well my cousin is a mechanic and he tested the alternator... its putting out 14 volts which is pretty much the perfect voltage. so it has to be something else... i just dont know what else it could be... what are these other ideas? lolol
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 11:40 AM

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well my cousin is a mechanic and he tested the alternator... its putting out 14 volts which is pretty much the perfect voltage. so it has to be something else... i just dont know what else it could be... what are these other ideas? lolol
Just wondering....why can't your cousin diagnose this problem?

If he has ruled out the alternator, the only other thing it could be is the bat, either a faulty bat, or the connections are corroded/loose. A mechanic should be able to diagnose and fix that relatively quickly.
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 11:45 AM

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Just wondering....why can't your cousin diagnose this problem?

If he has ruled out the alternator, the only other thing it could be is the bat, either a faulty bat, or the connections are corroded/loose. A mechanic should be able to diagnose and fix that relatively quickly.
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 11:47 AM

It could also be an aftermarket component that you installed, if you have any. I have this problem right now (if my car sits for more than a day or so), and I suspect I have a switched/constant wire flip-flopped somewhere in my aftermarket gauges.

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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 11:49 AM

it could also be the wires to the battery, when i had my clutch put in my battery died because of the battery wires not making a full connection thus somehow draining the battery. Just an idea.

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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 04:25 PM

haha u guys are so quick to be dick heads on this site it amazes me. i didnt bring my car to my cousins shop to be looked at yet, he just tested the alternator for me bc he has a tester at his home so he just looked at it quick after a family dinner one night.

lol now to those trying to be helpful... im suspecting that my wires are probably a bit corroded so im gonna bring it to my cousin soon. ill let everyone know what the issue was when i find out shortlyyy.
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 04:33 PM

Same thing happened to me - except it died sooner .... and it turned out to be a bad battery which I replaced with a new one and have been fine ever since.
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 04:52 PM

My tib is doing the same thing.

It would die after anything more than one day of not driving it. and its winter, so more or less i just want the alarm to work since I'm not driving it.

If I jump started it, my voltage gauge would read about 14V so I figured it was just the battery.

I jumped it off my truck, drove to the car parts store, got a brand new optima red top and all seemed fine, showed about 14V on my gauge, stoped at a red light and it dropped to below 12V .. wtf ... so I figured its just going through some charing cycle or something, drove around for a while to let it charge and thought nothing more of it.

Got home, parked it, and checked 2 days later ... dead again. So I pulled out the fuse from my amp power wire (incase it wasn't fully turning off), and jumped it again. let it charge up and let it sit again.

for the next week about, I'd hit the buttom on the remote to make sure the alarm was still on, and all seemed well. and then all of a sudden it's dead again after a week.

Possible voltage regulator issue? Since its an internally regulated alt, I'm thinking of just upgrading to the Santa Fe alt since from what I read its a bolt on alt with no modification needed, and it puts out a little more juice.

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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 05:35 PM

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My tib is doing the same thing.

It would die after anything more than one day of not driving it. and its winter, so more or less i just want the alarm to work since I'm not driving it.

If I jump started it, my voltage gauge would read about 14V so I figured it was just the battery.

I jumped it off my truck, drove to the car parts store, got a brand new optima red top and all seemed fine, showed about 14V on my gauge, stoped at a red light and it dropped to below 12V .. wtf ... so I figured its just going through some charing cycle or something, drove around for a while to let it charge and thought nothing more of it.

Got home, parked it, and checked 2 days later ... dead again. So I pulled out the fuse from my amp power wire (incase it wasn't fully turning off), and jumped it again. let it charge up and let it sit again.

for the next week about, I'd hit the buttom on the remote to make sure the alarm was still on, and all seemed well. and then all of a sudden it's dead again after a week.

Possible voltage regulator issue? Since its an internally regulated alt, I'm thinking of just upgrading to the Santa Fe alt since from what I read its a bolt on alt with no modification needed, and it puts out a little more juice.

yea man same here! if i dont drive it for more than a day or so it dies, that seems to be the issue. idk what causes that really
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 05:43 PM

Netstat, just as a test, try this if you don't mind. Pull the interior fuse (fuse with yellow casing around it) in your interior fusebox the next time you have to let the tib sit for a couple days. I'm willing to bet that your battery won't be drained.

I'm interested to see if anyone else has the same draining problem as me.
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 06:06 PM

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Netstat, just as a test, try this if you don't mind. Pull the interior fuse (fuse with yellow casing around it) in your interior fusebox the next time you have to let the tib sit for a couple days. I'm willing to bet that your battery won't be drained.

I'm interested to see if anyone else has the same draining problem as me.
removing the bcm fuse will also disable the alarm tho... so it kinda defeats the purpose.

I know its not just the drain of normal onboard stuff, because it didn't do this last winter.

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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 06:09 PM

happened to me the other day, but it was just because my battery was bad so i just replaced it and i havent had any problems for now.

good luck hope u find what is causing the problem
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 08:32 PM

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removing the bcm fuse will also disable the alarm tho... so it kinda defeats the purpose.

I know its not just the drain of normal onboard stuff, because it didn't do this last winter.
Crap my bad man, I didn't see the part where you said you were seeing weird voltage at a red light.

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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 09:13 PM

sorry i dont mean to steal the thread but its almost same topic...but i notice that when i dnt have my car running but i want to listen to music while washing my car. and if i leave it on for about 15mins the beast wont turn back on? so would this be fixed if i just got a new battery??...thanks guys...
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 09:36 PM

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sorry i dont mean to steal the thread but its almost same topic...but i notice that when i dnt have my car running but i want to listen to music while washing my car. and if i leave it on for about 15mins the beast wont turn back on? so would this be fixed if i just got a new battery??...thanks guys...
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-03-2010 , 11:28 PM

thanks that helps..
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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-04-2010 , 12:50 AM

I had a bad ground from the LEDGLOW I had set-up as it was a continous drain according to my electrician. (I do have periodsat times to where the car would sit for a week to 3 weeks btw.) I had to say goodbye to the little Kinetix battery among previous Optimas Red and YellowTop, I also had to go with a high-powered alternator(well a stronger one than the rebuilt alternators out there for our car) and thankfully have been issue free since.
I did have the LEDGLOW reconnected to a better ground and connected safely as above mentioned technician did not secure their live wires while under the dashboard.

I know the Voltage Stabilizer is basically a capacitor, though I did not see it as a great help overall.
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Best of Luck, hoping yourself and your cousin can find the source and correct it...knowing it took the electrician 2 days to go thru everything and determine the cause in my case (a bad ground).


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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-04-2010 , 01:27 AM

it happens occasionally to me.. usually if it wont crank up, i pop the hood, smack the battery, get back in and it cranks up fine.. lol

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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-04-2010 , 02:43 AM

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Somewhere in the car is a load that is killing the battery. If you have had any electrical work done recently you should be returning to have it looked at. It could be a bad motor somewhere (antenna motor, window motor, blower motor). You can disconnect the negative terminal from the battery until you get it fixed. It won't hurt anything.

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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-04-2010 , 03:07 AM

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Somewhere in the car is a load that is killing the battery. If you have had any electrical work done recently you should be returning to have it looked at. It could be a bad motor somewhere (antenna motor, window motor, blower motor). You can disconnect the negative terminal from the battery until you get it fixed. It won't hurt anything.

Yes this is called Parasitic Drain on the battery, and yes it will drain your battery overnight, but we're not sure if this is the problem he is having since he said that he believes that he didn't leave or have any accessories on the following night.

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Old Re: car battery keeps dying... 03-04-2010 , 07:44 AM

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hey, hope everyone is well.
i have a problem with my car/battery and i was wondering if someone could help out...

about 2 months ago my battery died for the first time, i didnt think i left anything on but it happens so i got a new battery and moved on. then about 3 weeks ago my car died again, i didnt think i left anything on again but it died, so i jumped it and moved on again. now yesterday my car died AGAIN and i am positive i didnt leave any lights on or anything bc i have been extra cautious knowing that the battery died twice before recently... is there anything else that could be wrong? any ideas would help. thanks guys
i had the same problem. i will tell you it is either one of two things, either your terminals are dirty/corroded thus the connections are bad or its Parasitic draw.
chances are its the first one, i was haunted by this problem for a year because of that simple reason. go to autozone and buy some terminal grease and coat the inside of each terminal with it and then tighten them down TIGHT. if a connection was your problem it will be gone now.
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