[DTrujill91]

I am out here putting the 2.0l and 5 speed trans from my tiburon in my brothers veloster. I have the entire harness pulled. I have the engine running, what I am wondering is what can I eliminate from the harness. I don't have access to wiring diagram so any info would be awesome. Thank you all. I can take more detailed pics of the harness if it helps.

 

[chase206]

That sounds like an interesting project. Are you keeping the OEM ECM or going standalone with it?

There isn't much you can delete from the OEM 2.0 harness without receiving a CEL. But you can delete your EVAP and downstream O2 sensors from the harness without affecting runability.

I can get you a pinout for the SIMK43 ECM harness later when I get to a computer. Anything specific you are looking for?

 

[DTrujill91]

Id like to stay oem for now. I have an safc2 on the oem ecu for when I had the blower and then turbo which wasn't ideal for the turbo. But to get going I am throwing the engine in stock to begin. I feel dumb but idk how to say it. I want to remove the extra body stuff without affecting the engine section of the harness. Guessing I am overthinking it. I just get nervous hacking stuff up without any wiring diagrams to correct myself if and when it goes south. Thanks for looking.

 

[chase206]

Everything you need can be found here:

Manuals - Google Drive

drive.google.com

 

[DTrujill91]

Cool 😎!! Thanks man! I got fused power and a ground run to the ecu I had those labeled from the safc2. Completely unhooked bcm. Jumped the starter and got it running. Shop manual has wiring diagrams and pinouts? I am just tracing wires at this point. Been just running from fuse box cutting out the stuff I know isn't needed.

 

[chase206]

Indirectly it shows you ECM pinouts in the schematic diagrams but it's broken up into different systems. If you look in the Electrical Troubleshooting .zip file under the SD.pdf file you will see grayed out blocks labeled "ECM" where it will show you pin numbers. Double check the manuals to ensure it applies to your donor vehicle 2004+. Your SIMK43 ECM differs greatly from the earlier SIMK41 variant from 2002-2003.

For example the MFI CONTROL SYSTEM shows the ECM pin numbers it uses specifically in diagrams like this:

 

[DTrujill91]

Thanks for the guidance!

 

[Rushking19]

This is awesome 👌🏾, and tbh should of been the engine these velosters Came with , definitely should eventually get a standalone ecu and boost it

 

[MrRob1080]

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Everything you need can be found here:

Manuals - Google Drive

drive.google.com

Sticky

 

[DTrujill91]

Shes seen a couple setups... Super charger then turbo a few years later once the intake manifold on the supercharger started developing cracks. Engine management definitely held me back with the turbo. Absolutely going stand alone once this is all sorted. Any standalone recommendations. And once again thank you all for the help!

 

[MrRob1080]

Shes seen a couple setups... Super charger then turbo a few years later once the intake manifold on the supercharger started developing cracks. Engine management definitely held me back with the turbo. Absolutely going stand alone once this is all sorted. Any standalone recommendations. And once again thank you all for the help!

Haltech Elite 1000+ or FuelTech
But it all comes down to a person who can tune.

 

[chase206]

I would personally convert to an early SIMK41 OEM ECM that supports a MAP sensor and tune on that. The harness plug pinout to the ECM is completely different but you can repin it and use the MAP harness in place of the MAF harness. There isn't a lot of information out there for tuning the OEM ECM but I have had some success reading/writing a relocated and removable EEPROM. I have also located a few maps on the SIMK41 that are useful for tuning. I can give you some of my information on it but it's still a very slow work in progress.

The general consensus on standalones is to call your local tuner and ask what they recommend. They will have their own preferred setup they know best. Doesn't help if you buy a lesser expensive DIY/opensource Megasquirt or Speeduino just to find out they only support Haltech or AEM.

 

[MrRob1080]

That sounds like an interesting project. Are you keeping the OEM ECM or going standalone with it?

There isn't much you can delete from the OEM 2.0 harness without receiving a CEL. But you can delete your EVAP and downstream O2 sensors from the harness without affecting runability.

I can get you a pinout for the SIMK43 ECM harness later when I get to a computer. Anything specific you are looking for?

I’m having issues trying to pull up the ECM SIMK 43 Pin out for the 07 auto I4….

 

[chase206]

I dug up an old text file in my archives that appears to be a BETA II ECM harness for the engine management side. Unfortunately I did not find the automatic transmission control side of the SIMK43 pinout. I'll check Mitchell on Demand to see if I can find something later in the weekend and let you know.

1
ECM ground
Chassis ground

2
Power stage ground
Chassis ground

3
Direct battery voltage supply
Battery

4
Ignition coil output 1,4
Ignition Coil #1, 4

5
Ignition coil output 2,3
Ignition Coil #2, 3

6
CAN LOW
Other control modules (TCM, ABS, etc.)

7
CAN HIGH
Other control modules (TCM, ABS, etc.)

8
HO2S Heater (B1/S1)
HO2S (B1/S1)

9
HO2S Heater (B1/S2)
HO2S (B1/S2)

10
Knock Sensor Input
Knock Sensor

11
CVVT Oil Control Valve output
CVVT Oil Control Valve

12
Not connected
-

13
Not connected
-

14
Battery Voltage Supply after Main Relay
Main Relay

15
Not connected
-

16
Not connected
-

17
Wheel Speed Sensor (-)
Wheel Speed Sensor (WSS)

18
Wheel Speed Sensor (+)
Wheel Speed Sensor (WSS)
Without ABS

19
Not connected
-

20
Not connected
-

21
Battery Voltage Supply after Main Relay
Main Relay

22
Battery Voltage Supply after Ignition Key
Ignition Key

23
Injector output (cyl. 4)
Injector (cyl. 4)

24
Injector output (cyl. 1)
Injector (cyl. 1)

25
Spare Sensor supply
Sensors

26
Purge Control Solenoid Valve (PCSV) PWM output
Purge Control Solenoid Valve (PCSV)

27
Crankshaft Position Sensor ground
Crankshaft Position Sensor

28
Not connected
-

29
Crankshaft Position Sensor input
Crankshaft Position Sensor

30
Camshaft Position Sensor ground
Camshaft Position Sensor

31
Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor input
Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor

32
Throttle Position Sensor input
Throttle Position Sensor

33
Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Signal input
Fuel Tank Pressrue Sensor (FTPS)

34
Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Signal ground
Fuel Tank Pressrue Sensor (FTPS)

35
Not connected
-

36
Not connected
-

37
HO2S (B1/S2) ground
HO2S (B1/S2)

38
Throttle Position Sensor ground
Throttle Position Sensor

39
Signal input Wheel Speed Sensor input
ABS Control Module
With ABS

40
Not connected
-

41
Not connected
-

42
HO2S (B1/S2) input
HO2S (B1/S2)

43
HO2S (B1/S1) input
HO2S (B1/S1)

44
Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Supply
Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor (FTPS)

45
Throttle Position Sensor supply
Throttle Position Sensor

46
Spare Sensor supply 2
Sensors

47
Immobilizer Data Line
Immobilizer
With Immobilizer

48
Sensor ground
MAPS, IATS

49
Not connected
-

50
Air Conditioner Compressor Switch input
Triple Switch

51
Air Conditioner Pressure switch input
Triple Switch

52
Oil Temperature Sensor input
Oil Temperature Sensor

53
Not connected
-

54
Knock Sensor ground
Knock Sensor

55
Ignition shield ground
Ignition Coil

56
Intake Air Temperature Sensor input
MAFS, IATS

57
Not connected
-

58
Air Conditioner Request Switch input
Air Conditioner Request Switch

59
HO2S (B1/S1) ground
HO2S (B1/S1)

60
Mass Air Flow Sensor signal input
MAFS

61
Injector output (cyl.3)
Injector (cyl.3)

62
Injector output (cyl.2)
Injector (cyl.2)

63
Not connected
-

64
Cooling Fan Relay - High control output
Cooling Fan Relay

65
Cooling Fan Relay - Low control output
Cooling Fan Relay

66
Engine Speed signal output
Tachometer

67
Main Relay control output
Main Relay

68
Air Conditioner Compressor Relay control output
Air Conditioner Compressor Relay

69
Electric Fuel Pump Relay control output
Electric Fuel Pump Relay

70
Malfunction Indicating Lamp (MIL) output
Malfunction Indicating Lamp (MIL)

71
Immobilizer ground
Immobilizer
With Immobilizer

72
Camshaft Position Sensor input
Camshaft Position Sensor

73
Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor ground
Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor

74
Throttle Position PWM output

75
Fuel Consumption signal output
Trip Computer

76
Oil Temperature Sensor ground
Oil Temperature Sensor

77
Diagnostic Data Line (k-Line)
Data Link Conector (DLC)

78
Idle Speed Control Actuator PWM output 2 (CLOSE)
Idle Speed Control Actuator

79
Canister Close Valve Control output
-

80
Idle Speed Control Actuator PWM output 1 (OPEN)
Idle Speed Control Actuator

81
Immobilizer Lamp output
Immobilizer
With Immobilizer

 

[427troy]

As far as computers go stay away from AEM. They suck and their customer service sucks and every product I've ever had from them works for a year and then started to have glitches.

 

[chase206]

As far as computers go stay away from AEM. They suck and their customer service sucks and every product I've ever had from them works for a year and then started to have glitches.

Would you mind listing the products and model numbers you've had issues with?

 

[chase206]

I’m having issues trying to pull up the ECM SIMK 43 Pin out for the 07 auto I4….

Here is your PCM/TCM pinout for the transmission controls (Colors may differ but the pint numbers are correct):

 

[DTrujill91]

Update: got the turd running and driving. Still need rpms and coolant temp wired in and the old harness cleaned up but it's gone pretty well. Thank you for the info and support.