[theolreelguy]

I'm confused on how this plate goes? Here are pics with normal installation having flat side to flywheel. Doing it this way I have to press to even get it on the pins. That and it leaves no room for tob to snap in.The next 2 pics are with the plate flipped around. Note that it rides on the pins like they should. It is just driving me nuts because I've always put them flat side towards flywheel. That and that is usually the only way they would ever fit. This new valeo seats the flywheel either way. Any input is greatly appreciated.

 

[chase206]

The flat side is supposed to go against the flywheel. Hard to see by the pics on my phone but it looks like you installed the TOB on the inside as if it were a push type clutch. We have a pull type clutch so the TOB goes on the outside of the pressure plate. You actually snap the TOB in after you've assembled the whole car using the clutch fork. Here's a video detailing the procedure:

 

[theolreelguy]

Actually the tob is not installed. I have it on the spline to get snapped in to place once I figure this out.

 

[chase206]

Actually the tob is not installed. I have it on the spline to get snapped in to place once I figure this out.

Oh ok, I see now it's just the clutch disk splines poking out. You are right this doesn't look right at all. For reference check out the video at about 19min to see the depth of their clutch in the center of the pressure plate.

 

[theolreelguy]

That's the clutch disc and pressure plate. Like I said it just don't sit right with the flat side towards the fw

 

[theolreelguy]

I've watched him do that clutch at east 10x. lol

 

[chase206]

I'm on a computer now and I can see your pics clearly.

Check your part numbers. You may have received the wrong disc for the wrong application. Did you buy the whole single mass conversion as one kit or did you piece it together yourself? Perhaps the unsprung disc you bought was intended for the dual mass flywheel?

I bought some cheapo EFT stage 2 sprung clutch kit and installed it myself 3 years and 50k miles ago. It was pretty obvious which way it settled into the flywheel with the pressure plate resting on top. Looking back on photos of my install, I can see the clutch is recessed pretty far on my particular kit. Perhaps the flat side faces the pressure plate. My flywheel also looks to have enough clearance to install the raised side of the disc towards the flywheel. On my install I could thread in the pressure plate bolts without having to clamp the pressure plate against the flywheel with any real force.

 

[theolreelguy]

It was a valeo clutch max kit off of ebay. I sent them a message with all the part #s to make sure they had not made an error. Probably won't answer till Monday though. But it does seem they may have sent the wrong disc. The pp and fw match up perfectly. The disc lines up and fits good but just don't seem to sit correctly. Thanks for all your input. I am grateful.

 

[chase206]

It was a valeo clutch max kit off of ebay. I sent them a message with all the part #s to make sure they had not made an error. Probably won't answer till Monday though. But it does seem they may have sent the wrong disc. The pp and fw match up perfectly. The disc lines up and fits good but just don't seem to sit correctly. Thanks for all your input. I am grateful.

Care to share the link to the kit you bought? Often times Amazon and eBay sellers try to pawn off subpar components as a "Valeo" kit but actually only the disc or the pressure plate are Valeo brand. If you spent less than $400 on that kit it's likely missing quality components that you need like the TOB which is a common failure point.

For example the Amazon seller I bought my EFT stage 2 kit from "efortissimo" sells a "Valeo HD" kit for $200 but the only Valeo components are the disc and pressure plate. The flywheel and TOB are EFT branded and likely inferior to Valeo. Valeo sells on Amazon direct with a kit named "Valeo 52252605 Solid Flywheel Conversion Kit" which is entirely made up of Valeo components for $400. Also I don't believe that Valeo uses any kind of stage 1 or 2 branding in their kits.

 

[theolreelguy]

VALEO STAGE 1 CLUTCH KIT with CHROMOLY FLYWHEEL fits 03-08 TIBURON SE GT 2.7L V6

VALEO STAGE 1 CLUTCH KIT with CHROMOLY FLYWHEEL fits 03-08 TIBURON SE GT 2.7L V6 in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Car & Truck Parts, Transmission & Drivetrain, Clutches & Parts | eBay

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[theolreelguy]

I should have done my homework on it. I can still send it back. My 2.7 busted a timing belt and I'm replacing the engine. Its become a project car so in no hurry for it getting done. My LUK clutch that I have in it know seems to be in good shape still but since I have it all apart I thought it wouldn't hurt to go with an upgraded clutch. Seems I should just get refunded and replace the tob with my luk.

 

[chase206]

Oh yeah that's definitely a partial Valeo kit. Looks like only the pressure plate is Valeo branded... All else is random bits they threw in to fill the kit but still market it as Valeo. I'm sure it will work if you flip the disc around but you're risking another clutch job if the TOB fails prematurely.

 

[theolreelguy]

Should I buy a better tob to use with it?

 

[theolreelguy]

Ok Chase. took it to my local tranny specialist and you are correct with it being flipped around. Next and final question about this.... Is it normal to see my flywheel from underneath the tranny like this. When I pulled it apart I didn't notice it. here's a pic buddy.

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[chase206]

You might be OK with that TOB. My cheapo EFT stage 2 kit with cheapo TOB seemed to work out OK for 50k miles and counting. I think I just got lucky though. Just know it's a risk you are taking and you may need to replace the TOB again in the near future if you were unlucky and received a bad TOB. You said you have a Luk clutch kit with a bad TOB? How many miles did you put on it before it failed? That is the kind of failure I've seen for years on the cheaper kits.

That opening should be covered by a plastic or rubber insert. I wouldn't drive it with it wide open like that because you'll get water and dust all up inside your clutch assembly and rear main seal area. Your old engine should still have that insert. If not, it's part #21514-37110 and looks to be about $5 or less on the Hyundai parts sites.

 

[theolreelguy]

I ordered it and will be in this week. This is my project car so not worried about getting it out on the road. I finished the clutch finally... alot of time hesitating because of the whole clutch disc direction. I ended up putting the extruded side to the fw and it seems to work solid. I'm still baffled by this but time will tell. Thanks for your time and help.