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Thats when you get yourself a 40 and a fine breezy to drink and pound the evils of life away....... LOL ok I'll lay off the G talk. :3_winkthu
i actually prefer it lmaooo

Super, relax. At this point what are you trying to prove other than what I already did?
the original post of urs i quoted u made it seem as if this was a piece of **** and getting it would be like being cheap and doing everything cheap, butttt thats how it came off. culd be wrong

name brands are sweet but its liek hyundai, branded brand name cuz of bad history and now they sell their best car for 22k when its better then more expensive cars.. ya dig?
 
The problem is this...

This test is a rock and a hard place...

If the SSA intake makes same numbers or better, it's not as pretty as the NGM, and it's cheap
if it makes lower numbers, its because the NGM manifold is better

So, there is no way to win.. but then again, is anyone putting an NGM manifold in to this test, or are you going with published numbers on an unknown dyno and unknown mods?

By looking at both manifolds, I honestly think the SSA will outflow the NGM, just based solely on the welds inside the runners... so... without a real world test, and including the NGM manifold on the same test engine.. this will never really be solved...

The NGM camp will just say thier manifold would have made more power yet on your test motor... You are arguing with a rock...
 
It does look like crap and they did no R&D themselves. HOWEVER like said the appearance can be changed and if the gains are worth the price then its all good. I feel like I'm running around in circles.
 
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I get friggin CELs with just an SRI....

P.S. everybody go to the tech section and read my post and lemme know what you think!
 
The NGM camp will just say thier manifold would have made more power yet on your test motor... You are arguing with a rock...
lol..... and it continues.
 
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I get friggin CELs with just an SRI....

P.S. everybody go to the tech section and read my post and lemme know what you think!
lol. I think I have a easy car. My filter has fallen off without me knowing it and I drove it around not knowing until it started to idle a little rough. But never a cel. My car likes me and what I do I guess.
 
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lol..... and it continues.
The fact is, Stage 4 owners should be happy with thier intake, and not even be in here.. NGM owners are continuing this.. but everyone else has the right to defend themselves against nonsense - No one wants to think they spent to much and got had... so, be happy with your intake and stand back and see what happens with this test... We all know the NGM intake is a nice peice.. but it has no reason to be even mentioned in here - but in defense, it will be...
 
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The fact is, Stage 4 owners should be happy with thier intake, and not even be in here.. NGM owners are continuing this.. but everyone else has the right to defend themselves against nonsense - No one wants to think they spent to much and got had... so, be happy with your intake and stand back and see what happens with this test...
+1

preach brother preach
 
The fact is, Stage 4 owners should be happy with thier intake, and not even be in here.. NGM owners are continuing this.. but everyone else has the right to defend themselves against nonsense - No one wants to think they spent to much and got had... so, be happy with your intake and stand back and see what happens with this test... We all know the NGM intake is a nice peice.. but it has no reason to be even mentioned in here - but in defense, it will be...
I am unhappy with my IM, its from the factory FTL.....
 
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Oh and I think you do need to trade for another tib because I have had SSA headers on for 15,000 miles in all kinds of weather, hot and very cold. Plus 1900mile cross country non stop driving trip that gave me not ONE cel since day one of them being installed. All that was done was 02 sensors being plugged in where they were supposed to be. No extending past cats or extending at all. :3_winkthu Your situation has me saying WTF?
Well, if I weren't so upside down on payoff, it would already be gone. The truth is I need something bigger for my family and the new baby! I've been trying to get a Trailblazer SS (cuz I don't wanna sacrifice speed..:) ) I've also considered a used MazdaSpeed 6. ....but me thinks I'm stuck with this car for a couple more years so it needs to be fixed one way or another.


lol. I think I have a easy car. My filter has fallen off without me knowing it and I drove it around not knowing until it started to idle a little rough. But never a cel. My car likes me and what I do I guess.
You sir....are a lucky bastard! That's just all there is to it!
 
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Screw you, Dragon. You and the love your car has for you, which is apparently more than most of ours have for us. (I think mine's upset with me because I want to trade her for a camaro in a bout a year)
 
Screw you, Dragon. You and the love your car has for you, which is apparently more than most of ours have for us. (I think mine's upset with me because I want to trade her for a camaro in a bout a year)
lol...... I'm not complaining :3_chubby:
 
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Nice edit.. the "whole story" as provided by who?

There is his side, and my side.. somewhere in the middle might be the truth
The edit was because I don't give enough of a **** about old drama. Everybody has a side.

edit..... Oh and because thats not what this thread is about, its a beneficial thread and I don't want to see it closed over old, stupid personal/business battles.
 
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The edit was because I don't give enough of a **** about old drama. Everybody has a side.

edit..... Oh and because thats not what this thread is about, its a beneficial thread and I don't want to see it closed over old, stupid personal/business battles.
agreed
 
I really don't know the whole story, not that I wouldn't mind hearing it, but not in here. I really don't want it to turn into another closed thread due to a Alpine vs. NGM type thread erupting.
 
I really don't know the whole story, not that I wouldn't mind hearing it, but not in here. I really don't want it to turn into another closed thread due to a NGM vs the world type thread erupting.

Fixed:3_winkthu it is corny and not what Motoria thread is about. It's about if the SOB works. :3_wink:
 
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