It's basically the same thing as the ripp s/c

 

no Vortech has a long shaft Procharger does not. Vortech runs off Engine Oil Procharger is Self Contained Oil.

Thanks for not answering the question at hand that is basically saying that a MP90 is the same as a MP62.

Its not. Same Design not same CFM rate. Vortech to Procharger isn't even the same design. So in being a Centrifugal S/C sure they are basically the same but Design completely opposite.

 

i read this on another forum:

So, I've been on the phone all day with various speed shops around the Country. I've talked to specialist and everyone in between. I wanted to get a SuperCharger or something that would give me some nice extra HP for my ride. After speaking with EVERYONE under the moon I came to the conclusion as did the EXPERTS that a ProCharger is the best way to go. Why? Basically they said it's the best system for anyone not wanting to worry about their engine on a daily driver. You bolt it on and your ready to go. As long as you keep the settings the way they are supposed to be with the build you should not have any issues.

So, what did the EXPERTS I talked to tell me about the systems in general to make me want to go with a ProCharger? Read on....

Kenne Bell, SMS or any other SuperCharger that sits on the top of the engine creates excessive heat under your hood and with a daily driver, around town, etc this can cause issues.

So, I asked these super mechanics and speed pros what they suggested I do. I said "what about Turbo" and got a very strong "Nooooo, you don't want to do that" as they said it required more maintenance and could also cause lots of issues on a stock motor.

So I said, well, what does that leave me with? They said I should get a ProCharger. They said they can be put on a stock engine, require little maintenance, don't create as much heat and give you 150hp gains. So I asked ALL of them if they liked Vortech or ProCharger better. They all told me ProCharger........ they said Vortech takes up to much room and has to be tied into your oil pan. The ProCharger doesn't and it won't take up as much room.

So in the end I am going with the ProCharger..... BUT WAIT! It's not over! I checked with ProCharger today and got authorized dealer info to order the ProCharger. Check out the price variations below. I found that it will take about 5 - 10 days to get here and a solid day to install. The install fee is $800 here and that includes a dyno run and proper tune. The ProCharger comes with a tune, but mine has to be adjusted for other mods they tell me.

 

Wait Wut? What is the point? and off what site Hyundai Site?

The only thing is no prochargers are not safe on stock motors without very monitored system. They do come with 4 psi pulleys which will be higher then what Stage 1 Roots puts out because it is the most efficient S/C out.

Centrifugal S/C efficiency is 75%-90% Depending on humidity and such. Roots S/C is 60%-85% depending on the same.

 

All I asked I figured someone might have one somewhere.

 

unless this counts

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175310

 

I don't know if this helps, but it's an old thread from 04

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1363&highlight=procharger

 

Sounds hot. But did the guy on the other forum have a Tiburon?

 

Oops, just read above. Forget to hit enter about 1 hr. ago.

 

bwahahaha.....


I remember that.... I saw that one and it went no where. lol.

 

Ripp chargers are pro chargers just modified.
Just like an mp62 on an ngm compared to an mp62 on a minicooper. Same chargers different design.
Just difference on the nose lenght.
Look up ripp chargers and they would say they use prochargers.
Prochargers are superchargers with turbo style design. Now different brands have diffrent designs.
So yes it has been done on a tib.

 

No no no...

Ripp Kit has Vortech Superchargers which is a different brand then Prochargers. Vortech S/C use Engine Oil. Prochargers have self contained oil.

RIPP DOES NOT USE PROCHARGERS. Ripp uses a centrifugal S/C made by Vortech. The one that is designed has a bar running across the whole motor to a turbine on the Driver's Side. Not self contained oil runs off engine oil.

Prochargers do not offer this bar across whole motors and would have to sit on passenger side of the motor. S/C oil is self contained no tapping oil pan. Would have to build brackets to mount the Procharger.


Vortech Centrifugal S/C

This has been used on a tiburon.

Procharger Centrifugal S/C

Wondering if it has been used.

 

seriously, you guys are splitting hairs.... vortech vs procharger... both are belt driven superchargers that work on turbine/turbo style guts... end of story. of course there are going to be differences, and self contained vs. tapping the oil pan is a minute, but nice difference. This is a retarded pissing match. Snout/pulley shaft length difference is not a deciding factor here. That only pertains to where you locate the f'ing thing.... at that point space in the engine bay matters most. the only reason for the shaft is because there isn't room to put it on the direct line of site of the acc drive system

 

Both the Vortech and Procharger are belt driven Turbo designs.. regardless of how they are driven, they are exactly the same design. They also don't work well with the 2.7 Delta - because of how hard they are to tune, too many variables in day to day driving to account for. The standard Procharger design cannot be incorporated in to the Tiburon motor compartment because of the space needed for the unit and the way it bolts up.

So, sitting in here arguing back and forth is just wasting skin off the ends of your fingers.

 

Tell that to this guy:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2112625/2003-hyundai-tiburon

Who has a VORTECH charger...

Or this guy:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2264923/2003-hyundai-tiburon-honolulu-hi-us

Who has a roots AND centrifigal s/c...

Btw, pretty sure both are members on here...

 

dude, listen clearly, THEY ARE THE SAME THING. only one has a self contained lubricating system. They are both centrifugal superchargers. Case in point.

ONe company makes a self contained lube system and they call themselfs PROCHARGER
The othe company makes a recirculating lube system and they call themselfs VORTECH

But they BOTH USE THE SAME TYPE OF SUPERCHARGER.

Arguing this is like arguing black is white. Your just gunna embarass yourself.

 

Thats all i was askin is has there been a procharged that has been bolted on the passenger side of the motor.

Conclusion NO there has not but there has been ones that Ripp puts out.

 

thread sucks.....

 

:3_lurk: :snacks: :bunny:

 

hm...I bet you could mount the typical procharger on a tib...If the unit wasn't so deadly on the V6, I would consider making a setup for it.

 

From what I can see and the measurements off of a Charger I was looking at after Unholy said we can't mount it on the tib lol If you take out A/C lines and washer fluid resevoir you can mount it right there run piping into the hole which Washer Fluid Resevoir is in down into a intercooler and comes back out where the CAI goes in. The only problem is where to put the Maf and BOV. Probably would be pretty hard to tune but it is more consistant then the Vortech with not overboosting.

I would have to get a custom made pulley to make only 2-4psi because how big the Centrifugal Charger i found was. It would be in the 250whp range i would think running 4 psi.

 

Plus Duds, weren't you just going to take your Tib back to bonestock and sell it? lol

 

Its close to stock as we speak. but its one of those things i want to get rid of her but everytime i try she starts running really well and i want to keep her.

I have to put a clutch in it and if i put $700 in the clutch and move where i think i will then i won't even drive 150 miles a week i might find a geo and keep her and mod her. I just don't really want to get rid of her cause she has treated me good. And you don't see them on the street everyday. And I am getting close to paying her off i might as well keep her and just find another engine.

I go through selling her and calling her a piece of sh!t everyday But when she is sitting in my driveway its hard to not want to keep her. I am making good enough money now that I can afford to mod her but idk its one of those things do i want to keep her or not. Next week i will be sayin i want to sell her again you know how i am.

 

First off, the SDS Ripp/Vortech didn't blow up anything, the tuning solution, (or lack of), did. There is no reason a Vortech, Pro Charger or whatever can't work with a proper tune. TC had one of the Ripp kits on a customer's car, tuned, it ran great. There is a reason Ripp mounted the Vortech on the end of a shaft, NO ROOM near where the belt is. Say what you want about Ripp Mods, (they did plenty to deserve it), but they did have successes, obviously had an idea of how to mod stuff, they put the blower where it fit, built a shaft to get power to turn it there. The main difference between Pro Charger and the Vortech units besides oil is the actual size of the blower units. The Pro Charger is smaller, uses different internal gearing to spin the impeller faster making up for the smaller size. The faster the impeller spins, the more efficient it gets, if you compare two dynos from the same platform, the Pro Charger will have a slightly 'peakier' curve, starts a bit later in the power band, builds to a bit higher peak, this ASSumes comparable boost.

 

Good post very informative :3_winkthu

 

thank you mistertib there was some information that i did not know there that you presented.

Also, Procharger will fit but no a/c will be available.

 

well thats just a pain in the ***..

 

People stick with the norm because they can afford to actually get it done.
I want to see someone put their money where their mouth is.
Let see someone break the norm and get it done!!

 

^ I second this movement.

 

i think he was talkin to me mistertib. not companies.

 

LOL yeah....
All I was trying to say is, let see it done already!!