IMO, the MORE the BETTER!! so some ppl would say its pointless... why? i guess just telling someone that i had 400 hp in my tib would make it all worth it

 

at that point, no standard clutch made for the tiburon can hold the power (save for NGM's 2000 dollar twin disk set up), traction becomes a huge issue even at 300 hp

 

Well... Fullblowntib is pushing god knows how much power through the stage 4 clutchmasters clutch and a phantom grip.... So you don't need to go bending over for NGM for their twin disk clutch. The problems you will have are 1.) Traction!!! 2.) Traction!!! 3.) If you can get traction Cv's will start breaking like twigs. This much horsepower also requires a lot of money to get there and quite a bit of tuning to run it safely for a long time. It is surely attainable, but you have to figure out all of your costs up front, just ask my roommate(sixspeedtiburon_silver) he was originally going for that much power, but to get everything to get that high required over $8,000 give or take for whichever kind of F/I you want to go, either Roots blower, Vortech blower, or Turbo. Good luck!

 

it not always about numbers either. A 250 to 300 whp tub is capable of hitting low 13s to high 12s. For a daily driver that's plenty fast.

 

Well, you could do it ... proper tuning and engine management for sure, not going to be cheap, and stuff will break along the way.

You'll need to limit boost in the lower gears, 500+ ft.lbs. of torque in 1st and 2nd isn't going to work very well. Remember that even a lightly mod'd tib has problems keeping traction.

You could go PR style and just slap a HUGE turbo on it, but that's going to be mostly worthless for daily driving.

Honestly though, at 250whp (which is what I'm guessing I'm running around at right now), the tiburon is a completely different beast than it was at 190whp. If it's not warm out I'll spin through first and second gear, and chirp half of third!

 

so pretty much the problem with high HP is the fact it is FWD.. well guess i will just get to about 300-400 HP, which should be fine, and find a project car for later, i love the tib and wouldnt want to get rid of it lol

 

I know that it would be nice to pull a 500HP Tib. But realistically, all you will be doing is spinning your tires going nowhere. Between 300-400 is reasonable and it's still enough for you to have fun. Just hang in there and don't give up.

 

go turbo. you'll have all kinds of traction to grab waiting for the turbo. but once the turbo spools say goodbye to everything as it's like your car became a rocket ship.

 

trade your car in for an auto ... you wont have as bad of traction issues due to longer gears

 

Auto ftw

 

ive seen turbo guys make more horsies and more torque in better rpm ranges than the sc guys. go look at some dyno sheets and figure out what you want your car to be like.

 

the superchargers have a flat torque graph, the turbo you really only get peak torque through a narrow rpm band compared to the sc


and you will still have traction issues with high hp turbo, but instead of them being at low rpm it will be at high rpm's

 

yes^^^^ you have to decide which advantages and disadvantages you like better thats all.

 

Boy, some thread this is, first we have people complaining about TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, what is this, Good Housekeeping? Can't find traction, doesn't seem to bother the SRT boys. Then the whining about the cost of a twin disc set up, well yeah, I guess you have to bend over when you compare the price to......., oh yeah, no one else makes one. Obviously, not too many people have ever tried to engineer, manufacture and produce a custom one off part.

 

That's just how NT has always been man. Someone makes something, and there is always the it costs too much crowd.. yada yada yada...

 

On second thought, look at some KDM Tibs. They have turbo Betas pushing somewhere close to 500 at the wheels (maybe more) and take it out on the street. I know I've talked about traction issues at that power, but those guys did a lot of work on the car to plant all that power to the ground. I'm not saying that it's impossible to do something like that here. It CAN be done, but it all depends on how much you are willing to spend.

 

there are ways to get better traction, but if you put 400 whp on stock suspension, and crappy all season tires, what do you expect?

get some great power, get traction bars and stiffer mounts, stiffer clutch, and kick-*** tires... tires make a huge difference.

it is not worthless to make over 300whp on the tib... that is a dumb comment in my opinion. a lot of people are saying this on heresay, and have not driven a 300+ whp tib... I have one and I love it. I want more power obviously, but I have to say that when you put some good rubber on the front, you will hook the power that you make, and no I am not talking about slicks. I still partly feather first, but have total traction in 2nd and up gears with minor traction mods, but great tires fyi.

 

+1 to that. Definitely cannot forget tires. Even if you have all the suspension/drivetrain components to handle huge power, the tires can really make or break the ability to plant it straight to the ground.

 

Obviously. tires are the only part of the car touching the ground. Make em wide and make em large as you can.

 

Too many people say stuff like "I want to make over 400 HP in my stock car" without knowing anything about what it takes to get there or what it's like driving a 400+ FWD car. My suggestion? Do your own dang research and take peoples opinions as just that, opinions.
Is it possible to do 400hp on the stock engine? Yes. Will it live long in a daily driven environment at that power level? No. Will the stock clutch hold that power? No. What needs to be upgraded for the stock engine and drivetrain to survive at that power level? You NEED forged pistons at the bare min for the engine to survive. For the drivetrain you will NEED a clutch capable of handling the amount or torque that produces 400 HP. I suggest also getting a full replacement limited slip differential if your going to be doing any racing at a track because after all the upgrades your stock differential will now be the weak point.

More advice? Realistically think about what you want out of your car and what your budget is. Then go from there.

 

Trying to make over 300whp is going to cost more money than it's worth.

 

Well i would like to make 250hp with a S/C an thats about it so is that hard to achieve and really costly?? Also everyone talks about HP but what kind of TQ upgrade do you get with the S/C??

- jlb23

 

thats easy to do with either a alpine or ngm supercharger and to top it off either can be gotten used for farily cheap as thats the only way to get a alpine anymore. even a new sniper kit for those numbers is to bad a price. your looking at anywere between 1500 for a used alpine or like 3500 i think for a new sniper. then you need a clutch though i think the one in your sig should be ok, and from the looks of your sig headers, motor mounts and a tuner +wideband and you should be good to go. so like 4500 if you go the pricer route to i would say like 2500 ish.


o and injectors i would get some 290's just to be safe

 

I'm not doing headers i know that for sure. I was think base sniper or stage 1 and thats as far as i plan on going.What kind of TQ increase does a S/C give you?

- jlb23

 

In Puerto Rico love the turbos in my case I have a v6 tib with a t70 turbo on a custom build kit by 2 FAST PERFORMANCE.
I love the bigs turbos because of the lag they provide less stresss to the bottom end of the motors and they give a huge power in hight revolutions sorry for my english.
I have 413 hp on 15 pounds of boost on a stock long block and run 12.06 @ 119 mph on m/h
24 / 8 / 15 drag radials and right now I am the fastest tib on PUerto RIco and ready to run 11 ns in the next run.
my modifications are:
custom built turbo set up with a t70 turbo 48 mm wastegate and 50 mm blow off evrething from Ebay 440 subaru injectors apex neo 255 walbro fuel pump snow performance alky kit stage1
fidenza aluminum fly wheel with act stage 3 clutch aem air fuel ratio gauge
ebay headers custom to fit the turbo housing and 3 inch exhaust
see the dyno grapic and a photo of my car

 

I wish i knew how to create a custom turbo...

 

How do you pass emissions?? PLus ngm says there kits design for a stock V6 i dont mind sacrificing some hp if it keeps my insurance down lol..

-jlb23

 

Well i can sacrifice some pwr when MA is strict on emissions and i been working on bringing my ins down for years now lol..What kind of TQ can you gain for the S/C know one ever throws out some numbers??

 

off topic, but bugging the hell out of me...how would sacrificing HP save on insurance? are we referring to getting fewer tickets from police if stock exhaust manifold are on instead of aftermarket headers?

 

getting headers can cause insurance problems when you get pulled over for a rejected sticker because i can't pass emissions with them lol

 

....idk were you got that from he said sacrificing hp for the strict MA emissions restrictions.