Most dealerships wont take cars with certain mods. They will be ok probably with the CAI and exhaust, but they will say no way on the headers simply because they require eliminating Cats and technically should fail you on inspections. So that aside, you probably won't get over $10k for a trade in on that car. You will also not want a 04 if you go turbo, you want a 03. To upgrade to a new 4cyl will probably cost you your car plus$5-6k. If you find a really nice dealership that want to work with you, then maybe $4k. Plus you would then have to spend cash on the turbo kit on top of that. You could have a turbo/SC for your current V6 for less total money spent. Or for the same amount of money or maybe even less you could pick up a daily driver just to put the miles on and save up til TC comes out with his Delta Turbo setup. Lots of options.

 

damn ok what if i get all my stock stuff back on?and i get a 4cly with no options, cmon than cant cost me 5 grand, do dealerships still have 03 I4s around?

thanks.....................

 

well, on the 04's, Hyudai has a $2000 cash back rebate and $1000 Valued Owner Coupon. How much do you still owe on your V6? As far as mods go, you would be better off parting them out, because dealers typically don't give you what you would get for them selling privately. I just traded in my 03 I4 for an 04 V6, with no options and about 13000 miles, and I think they gave me a little over $10k for it. And you're not going to find any new 03's anymore, those are long gone.

 

Here in lies the problem. Trading for an '04 I4 will screw you if you want turbo. The CVVT is the issue. As far as I know, no one has been able to bypass the thing to actually run a turbo kit. If you are going to trade and get an I4 you are going to have to wait, cuz I HIGHLY doubt a dealer has an '03 sitting around, unless it is used. On top of that the '04 I4 is MAF based, rather than MAP based meaning you will have to relocate the MAF sensor to install your turbo kit. If I were you, I would just keep the 6 and start modding, cuz you will get raped by the dealer anyway, regardless of what kind of shape your car is in, remember they are in business to make money, not make deals.....

 

yep u guys are right oh well haha

 

why not just get the alpine s/c for the v6?

 

They will be ok probably with the CAI and exhaust, but they will say no way on the headers simply because they require eliminating Cats and technically should fail you on inspections.

If you get headers you have to get rid of the catalytic converter? Is it that the headers ruin them, or is it just most people take the cat off if they get headers? W/o one, how can you possibly pass inspection?

 

If you get headers you have to get rid of the catalytic converter? Is it that the headers ruin them, or is it just most people take the cat off if they get headers? W/o one, how can you possibly pass inspection?

The converters are built into the exhaust manifolds. So if you remove the manifolds you're removing the converters also. There is still the 3rd converter further downstream. If you have to pass emissions and don't have a hookup then you might not want to install the headers.

However, an engine that is properly tuned should run fairly clean. I've seen some vehicles run cleaner than stock with a very good tune programmed in.

 

If you get headers you have to get rid of the catalytic converter? Is it that the headers ruin them, or is it just most people take the cat off if they get headers? W/o one, how can you possibly pass inspection?

Different states have different rules, but I know in NY and several other the rules simply state you must have Cats in the same locations as the stock ones. They don't have to necesarrily be the ones that came on the car, just need to be in the same place. The headers eliminate the cats on the downpipes, therefore break the rules.

The only way to get around would be to design some type of high flow exhaust manifold with performance cats, then you technically would be good to go. The other problem with headers is the second set of O2 sensors need to be relocated. If anyone started fabricating performance exhaust mani's with integrated hi-flow cats they would be legit for inspections and stuff, but it is such a niche market that it probably isn't worth the investment.

Back to being on topic. There is no way you will come out not having to pay towards a new tib. If you find a used i4 you may be able come pretty close to breaking even, but don't forget with any purchase you will have to pay sales tax on lets say a $15,000 car you are looking at paying something along the lines of $1200 in tax, that is just money lost. So budget that into any purchase plans you have. When you downgrade to an i4 you are also downgrading more than just the engine, there are some suspension differences, not the least of which is a downgraded sway bar, and of course you lose out on the 6 speed tranny. Unless you are very certain i4 is the way to go you may be better off keeping the V6. If you do go i4 make sure you get an 03, getting an 04 for turboing is definately a bad idea.

 

If youre really set on getting a 4cyl to turbo, then look around for a used 2003 model. Im sure they are out there. But trading in a used car for another used car is going to result in some negative equity. If money isnt an issue, then go for it.....BUT there are reliable F/I setups for the V6. Some people have out over 20k miles on their supercharged engine with no problems thus far. I think youd be wise to keep your V6, and just invest into a car youve already started modding

 

Here in lies the problem. Trading for an '04 I4 will screw you if you want turbo. The CVVT is the issue. As far as I know, no one has been able to bypass the thing to actually run a turbo kit. If you are going to trade and get an I4 you are going to have to wait, cuz I HIGHLY doubt a dealer has an '03 sitting around, unless it is used. On top of that the '04 I4 is MAF based, rather than MAP based meaning you will have to relocate the MAF sensor to install your turbo kit. If I were you, I would just keep the 6 and start modding, cuz you will get raped by the dealer anyway, regardless of what kind of shape your car is in, remember they are in business to make money, not make deals.....

Eh,, they are bunch of 04 cvvt turbos running around in korea.
And also, Alpine has a turbo kit for cvvt Beta engine..

 

You're gonna be upside down on your current tib, which is never a good thing, and you'll be downgrading. Tis just makes no sense. I mean, get the alpine stage II, save yourself a lot of money, and you'll have the same amount of power (~250whp)

 

well, to give you an idea, i traded in my tib in which i had for a little over a year with 23k miles, no mods, no dings, dents or anything with all the options including leather, and i only got 11400. yours i would expect them to give you less. i'd say that the painted interior will cost you because it's harder to sell a car when the interior has been painted, especially a color like red. had it been silver/aluminum looking color, it might be different, but the red will lower what they want to give you for a trade. i wouldn't think that they will give you anymore the 10k. so if you owe less then that, then go ahead and trade, but if you owe more the 10k, then you're going to take a loss, and your payments on the new car will prolly be higher then you're paying now. good luck.