I was wondering about a few things about tibs and also arguing with my buddy about this. First, if you have a Manual tiburon *5pd or 6pd* with a supercharger with all the needed acc. and a Auto tiburon with the same s/c and same acc, wouldnt the Auto tiburon be faster? I think it would. Next, How come the Alpine s/c are not made any more? Lastly, i have an Auto tibby, what s/c would be good for it? i've dont my research, and soo far it seems like NGM would be the best option, expecially if you get the packaged deals they got going on. Open to Opinions n suggestions :3_nosthum
Auto s/c tib, or Man s/c tib? + more
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I was wondering about a few things about tibs and also arguing with my buddy about this. First, if you have a Manual tiburon *5pd or 6pd* with a supercharger with all the needed acc. and a Auto tiburon with the same s/c and same acc, wouldnt the Auto tiburon be faster? I think it would. Next, How come the Alpine s/c are not made any more? Lastly, i have an Auto tibby, what s/c would be good for it? i've dont my research, and soo far it seems like NGM would be the best option, expecially if you get the packaged deals they got going on. Open to Opinions n suggestions :3_nosthum
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In response to the first part of the question, it depends on the driver. Sure on a TURBO car there is no lag in between shifts on a manual. But still it really dosent mean anything. When are you ever gonna have two boosted cars that are exactly the same, except for a tranny difference.
Auto Vs manual anything, comes down to the driver and whats in the car.
For your supercharger question you better search.
Auto Vs manual anything, comes down to the driver and whats in the car.
For your supercharger question you better search.
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well i guess the answer is i have to do more research for superchargers that are the best for auto tibs, thanks. any opinions for the auto s/c vs man s/c tibs and which is faster?
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1st. it depends on the drivers of the cars and the condition of the motor and s/c
2.alpine went out of business for fraud or something close to that
3. stick with ngm
start seaching buddy
2.alpine went out of business for fraud or something close to that
3. stick with ngm
start seaching buddy
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ok autos are supposed to take a beating and they are quiet at idle, standards if modded with solid flywheels, make a rattlely noise on the drivers side of the trans box at idle, which is normal and can be reduced with good synthetic gear oil. ...but if u have an auto, you should be good for 300 hp.
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No, IMO it's a drivers race auto vs manual. The auto has slightly taller gear ratio (1st gear is about 17% taller) and that's the only benefit the auto has over the manual f/i. You can close that gap a little by running taller tires and as long as the driver can shift fast should have no problem overcoming the auto. The hardest part with a manual is the launch.
Alpine left the country and are still in business as far as I know in South Africa. However I would never buy from them. They have poor customer service and are shady at best. If you search you can read more about it.
Alpine left the country and are still in business as far as I know in South Africa. However I would never buy from them. They have poor customer service and are shady at best. If you search you can read more about it.
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I disagree with this statement. The auto doesn't hold any more power over a manual. The clutches are going to wear out very quickly on an automatic with the added power. The only problem with the manual is the clutches are mostly junk. The 5 speed gear ratio is almost exactly the same for gears 1-4. If anything the 5 speed is the worse than the 5 speed because you are missing the extra gear.
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Autos don't have cluthches......
Also the auto is rated a little higher, I think only about 25-50hp. But you are exactly correct about the 5 vs 6 speed differences, they are to similiar.
BUT honestly, why would you want an automatic?
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hmm.. Learned something new today. Never Knew automatic have clutches.
But yeah, it depends on the driver. If you're a manual, You can't be granny shifting and expect to win, unless u have hella more whp than the tib.
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From what i have seen the average auto s/c tib will be faster than the average manual s/c tib all other mods being the same. IMO the manual can be faster with the right driver, but it takes alot to overcome the very tall gears on the auto. The reason i say this is look at the time sheets. I have the fastest time for the stage 3 sniper, but the stage 4 it taken by Rubin (i think thats who it is) who is a manual, most other mods were the same except he had a reflash and i was on a mafterburner, so he had a little advantage there. Not many drivers are going to be able to overcome the extremely short gear ratios of the manual tiburons, they were just made to make the most out of 180hp at the flywheel and werent made for higher hp running. I know everyone thinks they are the best driver in the world but its just not true and most will not be faster than the auto launched correctly and left in tiptronic.
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thought so.
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maunal is better and will get you more respect on the track. any one can smash a gas peddle, but not everyone can shift.
manuals are cheaper to replace and easier to rebuild, and to ky knowledge there's no lsd for auto. But i may be wrong on that one.....
at any rate manual has a better aftermarket support. I think from research on the other site it sounds like the reflashes are tuned better on manual.
manuals are cheaper to replace and easier to rebuild, and to ky knowledge there's no lsd for auto. But i may be wrong on that one.....
at any rate manual has a better aftermarket support. I think from research on the other site it sounds like the reflashes are tuned better on manual.
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Is the automatic in my '08 basically the same as earlier years? If so, I don't see how it would have much advantage over a well-shifted standard. The drop in 'pull' between 1/2 is really disappointing. 2/3 and 3/4 are sharp, but that first one really sucks in either full auto or slap-mode. I'm probably wrong, but wouldn't the difference be even more noticeable if supercharged?
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Wrong ........ LOL, the Autos have clutches, infact they're known as clutch pacs
Yup.....Minesbetter has a stall converter in his trans and it launches crazy hard when he stabs it and it also has a shift kit mod done as well.......as far as autos being better for dragracing, I gotta agree with some before me it comes down to driver, as I've just completely killed alot of autos that supposedly ran near the same times as me , but then I've been racing since I was 14 and am 45 now so it wouldnt be a fair comparrison:3_saai:
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the area where the auto makes up all its ground on the manual is the gear ratios, auto first goes to 40mph, second to 80, third to 110.
when your NA you really dont have the power to make use of them, but as you get more power (supercharged) you do. a manual driver will be spending as much time shifting as he is on the gas because the gears are setup to get the most sporty feeling out of a low hp car. every half second your shifting is time the auto is at full boost. this is what makes the auto > manual for all but the very best drivers in a boosted tib.
plus its much easier to control spinning on the launch when your first gear goes to 40mph rather than 20
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