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Awd 4g63 swap??

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#1 ·
I spoke with a very experienced mechanic about my 04 2.0 tiburon and he said he could do an awd 4g63 swap for about 6 grand, is this a reasonable price? Also I wanted to know if there was anything else I could do to get awd but keep my beta 2 engine, I know they are strong and similar to the 4g63 engines and can turbo nicely, any suggestions? I was somewhere around 300-350 awhp and tq
I understand it will be expensive but nothings to good for my tibby so don't tell me it's not worth it
Thank you!!!:3_shiny:
 
#2 · (Edited)
A lot of people are going to flame you for this and tell you it'll cost far more. Chances are very good it will run you more but if you're ambitious, patient, and committed go for it. Just be forewarned that an AWD or a RWD swap hasn't be done on our cars before despite many trying. Have yet to hear of one even coming close. If you go for it best of luck.

Would love to see it done :3_bier:
 
#4 ·
a lot of people are going to flame you for this and tell you it'll cost far more. Chances are very good it will run you more but if you're ambitious, patient, and committed go for it. Just be forewarned that an awd or a rwd swap hasn't be done on our cars before despite many trying. Have yet to hear of one even coming close. If you go for it good luck.
shun the non believer!!!! Shun shuuun shuuunnnnnnnn-a!
 
#3 ·
Id say go for it. so get a motor. Make brackets. Decide of you want it to be rear wheel drive it awd and go from there. If its rear wheel drove you shouldn't have that much of a problem. Just making the tunnel for the drive shaft would be the worst. And for the rear maybe a raider rear since its a posi. You can run a stand alone system so you wouldnt have to mess with the wiring.
 
#8 · (Edited)
Except you will have to fabricate a new steering rack, front knuckles, possibly suspension bits like sway bars, ect. The list goes on.

I would be shocked if a shop could do that for 6 grand. Id be even more shocked if they could do it if that quoted price included parts. To the OP, dont waste your money. If you want to go for a setup like that, look onto getting another car.

I wont close this thread, but I am monitoring it...

Oh and if you put up a comment saying "but it would be cool and original!" you will be flamed heavily. I would never drop $6k for originality. If you want that, just go be hipster for a week.

Not trying to be rude, just simply saying. Thanks
 
#9 ·
My very first post was exactly this, at the time i thought it was even a reasonable feasible goal. i now know that it would ruin the car,

The simple math involved in just making the car drivable let along jamming all that drive train in there and making it work is just not piratical even coming from the heart of a modder who dares to do the unthinkable just because i can
 
#10 · (Edited)
Anything is possible at the right price, in fact, being a fellow DSM owner, ive always thought about doing the same thing. Many people have done AWD conversions on Galants for about 3k on my DSM forum. So 6k would be a good price.

Ive seen so many custom cars, ive seen trucks with a 2JZ motor in it.Even a Integra with a Blown big block chevy motor in it and is RWD, Anything is possible.

A lot of custom fabrication will be needed, and a custom add on sub frame to hold the rear end, but again, anything is possible if you got the money.

If you got the money, then do it.

I also see your in my state, which city are you in? which shop will be doing the work?
 
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#15 · (Edited)
There are those (they were professionall built by I don't remember which privateer team) and Hyundai ran a works team that ran a 2003 AWD turbo i4 Tib at the 2006 X-Games. It actually did pretty decently against the normal STi's and Evos.

Additionally, two AWD i4 03s were run by the same team in Rally America in the Pro class as well as one or two FWD i4 Tibs in the stock class. All were fairly successful. The program is long over though and the cars sold to privateers or collectors and will probably never be seen again. But again, there's never been an AWD Tib built by random tuners, the only successful builds were professionally done by racing teams.

EDIT: ninja'd

edit 2: a modified magazine editor ran one of the stock rally tibs and wrote an article:
http://www.modified.com/motorsports/0209scc_hyundai_tiburon_rally_car_review/
 
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#19 · (Edited)
Yeah, that would be amazing. That car cleaned up in SCCA Pro Rally class. So who says Hyundai has no racing experience?
EDIT: You can buy it!
http://www.libraracing.com/rallycarsparts.htm
Only costs as much as a BMW M3...
 
#23 · (Edited)
On a side note, there are no AWD 4G63 engines.

There are however, 4G63T engines with AWD capability.

Here's my 12 years of DSM tuning knowledge... Get ready for some school.

A 4G63T will fit in the engine bay. You will need an engine from a 1G or 2G Eclipse GS-T. I recommend the 1G engine as the 6-bolt is way better than the crappy 2G 7-bolt. It is NOT similar in any way other than it's a I4. $7,000 is pushing it for this particular engine swap. The engine has to be mounted to the other side of the bay to get it to work.

How do I know? I've done it to a 2002 Eclipse, which does have a stock engine like the TIburon and mounts at the same points. The following picture is what the swap looks like when completed.

(2002 Eclipse with a 4G63T swap. Fully built block, ported, polished, cyro-treated parts. 32psi. 546whp.)
Image

(Notice how the engine is now on the right side...)

The entire K-member and new mounting points had to be made. Custom axles, cv-joints and the works had to be found/made as the engine had to be mounted different changing all the clearance specs.

To put a built 1G DSM 4G63T into a 3G DSM that had a 4G64, cost with custom parts manufacture labor, was just under $10,000. If you do without all the bells and whistles of a fully built engine, I would guess about $8,000.

So, your shop is not too far off for a FWD to FWD swap. No way AWD is going to happen.

But what do I know, I'm a girl.
 
#38 ·
It's been done before in previous gen Tiburon, so why not. I want to see some results otherwise it's just BS talk. It can be done anything can be done with time and fabrication.
 
#39 ·
wait till you have the 10K+ to drop into doing this and have sourced the parts and fabrication services first, then talk. we might believe you then.
 
#47 ·
I was going to say EVO3 motor/driveline.... I think Hyundai used to use that back in the day as well.

BSE built an AWD turbo GK using Santa Fe parts , way back when. It was associated with that whole H.A.R.D./BSE nonsense that never came to be. Hyundai crushed the car.

I wouldn't attempt an AWD swap in one of these cars, but that's just me.
I'm glad someone remembers this car. Last we heard it was shipped to Korea...even though we were told it was being crushed. It was a 2.7l turbo AWD. It used the Sante Fe AWD platform.

It was pretty cool. I miss that car.
 
#43 ·
that's a 99... completely different from the GK in every way. Nothing that is one way on the RD Tibs is the same way on a GK.