[promo123]

What's the best turbo book you can read? I'm positive there're like 100 threads on this topic but i want you to answer.

 

[MotoX244]

/SpoonFeeding

 

[promo123]

Wow, you're right...you really don't have any idea...or clue. You've never funded a (edit: HIGH QUALITY) build, have you. $5k is nothing on a quality build that will last.

/SpoonFeeding

I think its hilarious that the most expensive part of your build was sensors and gaskets..that's why I ask about the donor. And the book.

 

[duds03tibby]

Ok I have tried my hardest to stay out of this thread cause I kinda like Promo's Ambition but Putting a diesel Turbo on the Tib... That he got cams right but nothing else...
Promo, let me give you a couple suggestions-
1st: Cheapest Turbo kit out there with him doing the work is Duffer's for about $2200 Shipped with an internal wastegated turbo. Ask him parts he uses if you can get the same deal it saves you for one Shipping for two His work: $600 off so thats $1600 right where you were looking at spending and thats with the cheapest new parts out there.

2nd: The more you talk the least VETERANS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BUILT A TURBO kit like you! Just keep burning bridges and you will end up not getting any replies.

3rd: You need to learn about Tuning a little bit more before you attempt this *Budget Build*

4th: If you want the cheapest thing out there: Alpine S/C for $1500 might be better for you the way this thread looks.

5th: A/R for what you want needs to be about .54 at least... I would suggest .57-.63 then if you want to go up in boost its POSSIBLE and still get everything in high RPM.

6th: If you don't listen to some of the vets you are going to end up 1. Selling your car and buying a Honda or 2. Blowing it up!

 

[Sebascaris]

this thread should be closed... this guys posts the same thing again and again... i think everyone has warned him enough on what he should do, but he still wants to go his way... The facts you read and actually building the turbo is a whole different story... so many things can come up.. details details u will have no clue about... etc... the fact that u are not running 300whp doesnt mean your car will be bullet proof... But once again its your car...

 

[Galagher]

Yea 5 grand is nothing for a build. People are throwing that kind of money on brand new supercharger setups, plus spending another 3-8 grand on a build block and heads.

Just cause you plan on running low PSI and only have a goal of 250whp doesn't mean you can't detonate your engine. You sir promo are heading to disaster. And you don't know anything about cams, you admitted to guessing and then googled it later. You know nothing about turbos but claim it can be done for $500. Your already rounding near the 1000 dollar mark. And 15 dollar oil lines, I hope you arn't planning on using those rubber lines, they are surely going to melt. And even when they don't, theres a giant posibility in rupturing one, or cutting 1 on something, thats why people go stainless braded oil lines. Why cheap out on the life line to the turbo? And Diesles are alot different from gas engines because of the combustion. Your not going to beable to take the diesle turbo and slap it on the gas engine, even if it is the same displacement.

I'm only going off on you cause your clueless, and refuse to accept help and correct information. Good luck with your build, your going to need it. And sebscaris is right, you can have the best plan in the world, but allot of things come up during the actual build. There are alot of details you need to address. I'm doing my build as i speak and am finishing up, believe me when i say it was HARD *** WORK. Definetly something you don't do over night.

 

[Vind]

A lot of talk and not enough doing. I'm not here to put anyone down, but it seems like there should be researching going on and less talking. More money saving and more planning. Getting from N/A to F/I takes hard work. Coming on these boards and asking for help all the time from F/I vets just pisses them off. They worked hard to get there. It will be equally challenging for everyone else.

 

[plutort]

ok so heres my question i didnt know this section was here and have been piecing my s/c kit together for a litte while. need some noob help.
ngm tri flow
solid mounts
headers
cat back
stage 4 clutch
9lb flywheel
alpine s/c wtih water to air intercooler
using 2.8 pulley to push around 7 psi

now question is will i be able to run that safley on the stock 2.7 se motor.
oh yea thinkin about alky and an ngm re flash for tune

 

[dmdicks]

Once again, the parts you have.

$70 Turbo
$200 Manifold(up-pipe) and downpipe
$20 oil upgrade - not sure what that is?
$60 upgraded fuel pump
$70 Wideband
$40 BOV
$150 Intercooler & Intercooler piping/clamps/couplers
$15 Oil lines and fittings (I would love to know where you got that price from. Probably way to short.)
$30 Boost Gauge
$80 Motor mounts
------------------------------------------
$735


And the parts you need:

$___ New bearings for Turbo
$___ 290CC...trying to find__ Injectors
$___ Sorta an issue..__ Tuner
$___ Oil filter sandwich plate, unless your tapping the block and stealing a fitting.
$___ Colder spark plugs
$___ Apex'i Turbo Timer (yes, you have it, but how much did you pay for it. It's part of the build.)
$___ ODBII Scanner (Once again, how much did you pay for it? It's part of the build.)
$___ Battery relocation kit
$___ A way to mount your boost gauge
$___ Oil catch can
$___ Catch can hoses and fittings
$___ Shipping charges
$___ Many little things
-------------------------------------------------------------
-$235


What's that...you're already over your $500 budget! Wow!

Here is my parts list. You can add about $850 to that total for my clutch and flywheel.

VERY NICE LIST!!

Guys, this is how IT SHOULD BE DONE. Anything else is just a WASTE OF TIME!!

+ Rep for sure...

 

[promo123]

Moto, is there a particular software you use to tune your AEM F/IC?

 

[BLK_Tuscani04]

...the software that comes with the tuner?

 

[promo123]

How easy is it to use? I'm looking for a used tuner.

 

[3DZer0]

Promo, let me give you some advice, stop take a breath, take a step back and listen. I'm not even a turbo guy, but an SC guy and I still know you are way way off base with the stuff you are trying to accomplish.

All of these guys including myself have been there, I have been there for over 4 years, and watched as others like yourself took the cheap way out then spent at least twice as much money trying to repair their problems when they could have just gotten a prebuilt kit. And honestly with the lack of knowledge you have you may want to go with a stage 0 S/C and be happy with it.

I am not trying to discourage you, and neither are any of these guys in this thread they are trying to keep you from making a huge mistake with your car and trying to keep you from spreading misinformation .

I ran my assassin at 10psi on the stock block for longer than most at 7psi, but I am also freaking anal when it comes to tuning my car as well and I take the time to do it right the first time.

Best of luck to ya ...

 

[Galagher]

How easy is it to use? I'm looking for a used tuner.

If your just planning on running your car at Low psi you can get away with tunning with the Neo. It's when you up the boost and power that you have to add in the bigger injectors like the 440's. The neo can't tune these as good because it can only add or subtract 50%of the fuel throughout each rpm increment.

If you plan on staying at or below 8 psi, get the Noe, it will get the job done just as well. and best of all, you don't need a laptop, unless you are data-logging at the time. But if you plan on staying at low boost and then upping it once you block is built or feel your car is capable of more power, then the FIC or TF-10 would be the best choices as you can subtract or add up to 100% of the fuel at all the rpm increments. And i believe you have allot more RPM increments with these tuners. These tuners also allow for allot of extra toys. They also let you control timing.

If you are building a budget kit at low PSI though, theres no reason to dish out the extra money for the more sophisticated tuners if you don't need it.

Just a suggestion.

 

[Galagher]

Cool, If the total cost ends up being around 5000 plus. I'm calling it quits on the Tibby and buying a Supra or a Skyline instead, I mean at that rate going to be cheaper in the long run...

If you shop right and build your kit with more power in mind in the future, you can get a kit built for around 2500 if you do it all yourself. then all you have to do is buy a bigger wastegate spring and boost controller when you want more power. Reaserch, Plan, Ask Questions, Build. It's the cycle of success. NOt very many people have turbo kits because it's harder to get it all together. But once you are there, more power is as easy as turning up the boost, granted you have the supporting mods.

 

[duds03tibby]

If you shop right and build your kit with more power in mind in the future, you can get a kit built for around 2500 if you do it all yourself. then all you have to do is buy a bigger wastegate spring and boost controller when you want more power. Reaserch, Plan, Ask Questions, Build. It's the cycle of success. NOt very many people have turbo kits because it's harder to get it all together. But once you are there, more power is as easy as turning up the boost, granted you have the supporting mods.

This is the whole way of how to get your kit together... Although I am going to be doing something a little different with the Build part but i will know the ins and outs of my kit either way... Most of all is tuning once you get that down you got a turbo set up NAILED

 

[Galagher]

Yes, we should all restart it once the turbo is running on the car to:

Resarch, Ask questions, Tune.

And keep the cycle going, you can always learn something new.

 

[promo123]

Research, ask questions, build, tune your build. Tuning is crucial to not blow your engine hehe. But seriously, if you have a group of friends that know a lot about F/I and are willing to spend some time to help you out you're golden.

 

[plutort]

can i get some help here. just wana know if im safe with what i put down last post

 

[Bakerking31]

ok so heres my question i didnt know this section was here and have been piecing my s/c kit together for a litte while. need some noob help.
ngm tri flow
solid mounts
headers
cat back
stage 4 clutch
9lb flywheel
alpine s/c wtih water to air intercooler
using 2.8 pulley to push around 7 psi

now question is will i be able to run that safley on the stock 2.7 se motor.
oh yea thinkin about alky and an ngm re flash for tune

forgot a few things

-Plenum for triflow
-injectors
-something to tune with


safe on stock block? should be ... nothing is 100% :3_winkthu