[Quartermaster]

.... if the "SpiralMax" isn't much use on expensive track cars, then why the f**k is it being pictured in a Ferrari?

 

[nightv]

they used it as a tester to show how well it works. they have a dyno some were and im trying to find it. they said somthing like the great amount of air that is getting sucked in to the car shows just how well this item works and bla bla bla

if i have the extra cash i would but one just for the MPG.i drive 120 miles + a week so in 14 days i could atleast see it im wrong and send it back. bu tive seen it work so i think it will work on tibs as well with the way the i/m is set up

 

[Quartermaster]

If you had an extra car? You... want to have an extra car to test this on? Come on man, a Starbucks cashier could afford to buy one of these things, it's just over the cost of a freakin video game.

 

[nightv]

sorry was typing fast and fed up.

im trying to get $500 for the NGM stage 4 deposit right now and dont have the time to get it dynoed and all that or the cash. ill see if they have one they used on the civic at magnaflow around 1pm today when they were testing it. if there not using it iimy friend will give it to me if it is still there

 

[jeffp007]

This argument will never be settled until someone tests the product and proves it wrong or right.

 

[Koreandude]

Well, since Dr. 'nightv' Hawkings has declared that it helps the air move faster up the pipe to the throttle body, then it could legitimately be called F/I! See, it provides roughly .0000943lbs of boost, and you don't even have to wait for it to spool up.

Dude you really should get the hamsternator. It generates .0293 of boost which is a .0282957 psi increase over dr. hawkings findings. Its very clear the hamsternator is the sure choice in rip off propoganda.

 

[Koreandude]

they dont use a vortex generator persay but they use the same technology to generate a vortex.
and the v2 is a good example.
the pipes by having the air expaned in the bigger chamber then conpresses making a vortex,

also i think you should have said some hick in mission vejio, and have you not seen a CAI with a spiral tubing. i know i have. i know my friends civic SI CAI from injen has this, the new K&N filters iv seen have a small vortex generator in the tip of it. also wtf is this speeds/frequencies thing your tring to talk about. there is no frequencies in air movement. frequencies is the measuring of waves i.e. sound/light/vibration.

HOLY SH@T DUDE, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH YOU ARE TALKING OUT YOUR ASS RIGHT NOW, SH@T SHOULD BE FLYING OUT OF YOUR FACE!

Did you learn all this from personal speculation and assumtion???
Do you really think you can get away with this Bull@hit you call logic? Do some REAL research before you decide to back up your argument with horse crap. I'm a nice guy and don't like flaming people but i'm sorry. Your story is so @ss backwards i gotta open up a can-o-flame-ass.

FIRST OF ALL, the V2 DOES NOT USE A VORTEX TO MAKE ADDITIONAL HP. What logic in your head says that two consecutive, stepping diameters makes A SPIRAL???!!!

VORTEX: A spiral motion of fluid within a limited area, especially a whirling mass of water or air that sucks everything near it toward its center

Sorry but the V2 DOES NOT DO THIS. It employs technology called the HELMHOLTZ RESONANCE. The different dia. piping generates a resonant frequency tuned to the car. This frequency helps PUSH air into the motor at certain RPMS. NO VORTEX HERE.

And whats this "there is no frequencies in air movement. frequencies is the measuring of waves i.e. sound/light/vibration."? Dude you're pissing me off. What do you think sound waves travel through? AIR. frequencies create SOUND PRESSURE IN AIR. Most objects have a RESONANT FREQUENCY.

And your little SPIRAL AIR FILTER is another load of bull ****. THEY DON'T GENERATE A VORTEX. The paper/cotton gauze filter element is too turbulent to generate any kind of "swirling" motion not to mention after it passes throught the MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR IT IS STRAIGHTENED OUT even if it did make it pass the MAF, the 90 degree angles it has to go throw once passed the surge tank will screw up your little vortex.

And these "vortex" generator Tips in your K&N filters not only does sh%t for making a swirl, it IMPEDES performance in high flow conditions.

Injen has one of best flowing filters becuase air comes in ONLY from the sides and then passses through a VELOCITY STACK which helps collect the air smoothly in very high flow conditions.

You are a good example of a cocky concided retard who doesn't even know what they're talking about. Great job.

 

[Mover]

HOLY SH@T DUDE, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH YOU ARE TALKING OUT YOUR ASS RIGHT NOW, SH@T SHOULD BE FLYING OUT OF YOUR FACE!

Did you learn all this from personal speculation and assumtion???
Do you really think you can get away with this Bull@hit you call logic? Do some REAL research before you decide to back up your argument with horse crap. I'm a nice guy and don't like flaming people but i'm sorry. Your story is so @ss backwards i gotta open up a can-o-flame-ass.

FIRST OF ALL, the V2 DOES NOT USE A VORTEX TO MAKE ADDITIONAL HP. What logic in your head says that two consecutive, stepping diameters makes A SPIRAL???!!!

VORTEX: A spiral motion of fluid within a limited area, especially a whirling mass of water or air that sucks everything near it toward its center

Sorry but the V2 DOES NOT DO THIS. It employs technology called the HELMHOLTZ RESONANCE. The different dia. piping generates a resonant frequency tuned to the car. This frequency helps PUSH air into the motor at certain RPMS. NO VORTEX HERE.

And whats this "there is no frequencies in air movement. frequencies is the measuring of waves i.e. sound/light/vibration."? Dude you're pissing me off. What do you think sound waves travel through? AIR. frequencies create SOUND PRESSURE IN AIR. Most objects have a RESONANT FREQUENCY.

And your little SPIRAL AIR FILTER is another load of bull ****. THEY DON'T GENERATE A VORTEX. The paper/cotton gauze filter element is too turbulent to generate any kind of "swirling" motion not to mention after it passes throught the MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR IT IS STRAIGHTENED OUT even if it did make it pass the MAF, the 90 degree angles it has to go throw once passed the surge tank will screw up your little vortex.

And these "vortex" generator Tips in your K&N filters not only does sh%t for making a swirl, it IMPEDES performance in high flow conditions.

Injen has one of best flowing filters becuase air comes in ONLY from the sides and then passses through a VELOCITY STACK which helps collect the air smoothly in very high flow conditions.

You are a good example of a cocky concided retard who doesn't even know what they're talking about. Great job.

Come on now...this was fun...don't bring facts into it. You'll scare him away.

 

[Tiburonotb]

Holy Pwned batman!

 

[nightv]

Sorry but the V2 DOES NOT DO THIS. It employs technology called the HELMHOLTZ RESONANCE. The different dia. piping generates a resonant frequency tuned to the car. This frequency helps PUSH air into the motor at certain RPMS. NO VORTEX HERE.


any tubing that gos small big small will make a vortexs for one. it just happens. when the air is pushed together. so you are not right

also i would like to see the SOUND PRESSURE as you put it in decibel. it would be less then .5 i bet, witch would do nothing at all.

so sound comes in at the sides of the chanber and makes the air flow faster. aaaa ok i alread know that they say this on there web page, and i call it bs. i want to see a car running with it with a decibel meter in it to prove me that it helps and it is making the decibel it need to have the amount of waves it need to do this.

i e you stock sub on low is like 25 decibel, your after market cat back is 95-97 decibel
also if the V2 is only helped by sound waves then the same idea is working on my cat back with my muffler witch is using the same thing almost. hmmmmm no it deadens the sound.

 

[Mover]

Make sure you buy one!!

 

[KpKrNChOi]

anyone else skip 3/4 of the posts to find nothing but useless info and to realize their time was wasted outa their life?

 

[tibguy254]

if u want something at least worth it...get an E-Ram. electronicsupercharger.com
i dont know all about it but the site does. maybe you could be the official test of the E-Ram for our tibs.

 

[Quartermaster]

any tubing that gos small big small will make a vortexs for one. it just happens. when the air is pushed together. so you are not right.

Did you not read the freaking links I gave you earlier for wave resonance theory? :m_dunce:

So what you're saying, Dr. Hawkings, is that if I get an oil funnel and blow through it from the wide diameter side, a vortex comes out the other end? That's pretty funny. So if I follow that logic, then, every time a ricer steps his cat/muffler/pipes down to a different size piping between components because he's too cheap to do it properly - then he's generating a vortex of airflow?

The AEM V2 diagram clearly shows that vortices are not formed (they cannot be formed by the nature of it's design, there's nothing to foil the airflow) and that wave resonance is what they're after.

 

[Koreandude]

:3_lurk:

any tubing that gos small big small will make a vortexs for one. it just happens. when the air is pushed together. so you are not right

wow, really? Man, to hell with Helmholtz. ****, who cares he founded the conservation of energy. What does he know?

also i would like to see the SOUND PRESSURE as you put it in decibel. it would be less then .5 i bet, witch would do nothing at all.

First take your head out your ass, so you can hear me better. You said "also wtf is this speeds/frequencies thing your tring to talk about. there is no frequencies in air movement. frequencies is the measuring of waves i.e. sound/light/vibration"
So i said frequencies traveling through air create sound pressure. Thats why we HAVE sound pressure.

so sound comes in at the sides of the chanber and makes the air flow faster. aaaa ok i alread know that they say this on there web page, and i call it bs.

:m_dunce: WTF, i never said that. I don't even understand what the heck you're talking about.

i want to see a car running with it with a decibel meter in it to prove me that it helps and it is making the decibel it need to have the amount of waves it need to do this.

You know, you're measuring the WRONG thing. This was taken from www.AEMPOWER.com..
Traditoinal intake systems are tuned to take advantage of resonance frequencies in the low- to mid-RPM range. However, as RPM increases, the frequency of the inlet valve events and the resonant frequency of the inlet tract become out of phase. The AEM V2 incorporates a dual chamber design in order to take advantage of resonance frequencies throughout the RPM range. This is what allows the AEM V2 to make significant gains in horsepower throughout the RPM range over traditional intake systems.
Uh yeah, CHILDREN, THE WORD OF THE DAY IS "FREQUENCY"

i e you stock sub on low is like 25 decibel, your after market cat back is 95-97 decibel
also if the V2 is only helped by sound waves then the same idea is working on my cat back with my muffler witch is using the same thing almost. hmmmmm no it deadens the sound.

uh, you're measuring SOUND LEVEL (dB). Frequency is measured in Hertz. That is what is important.

MY GOD, just stop the STUPIDITY PLEASE!

 

[Koreandude]

I don't think so. The idea would be for all the people who believe to go out and find proof. Then you get to say "I told you so". You should spend your money on turbanators and tornados and dynos...because you have the burden of proof. The people against it have the easy to understand reason that car manufacturers would use it if it worked. They are engineers...they must have a reason. The reason to believe in it is a little less convincing..."an advertisement says it works".

I think these are sold next to the Penis enlarging pills.

 

[BHE]

yes, the only way I will buy it is if Broom Auto is the one that is putting on the GB.

Can you feel it man ? this is chris brooms revenge ..lol..

 

[Tiburonotb]

Can you feel it man ? this is chris brooms revenge ..lol..

Chris Broom>Newtiburon.com

 

[YOiBE]

Bahahahahahaaha

I think these are sold next to the Penis enlarging pills.

 

[Koreandude]

Penis Enlarging Pills > Turbonator.

I'm not even sure what we're talking about anymore. I feel somewhat responsible for the demise of this thread so for what it's worth i apologize. I hope it was at least entertaining. But then again this is supposed to be informative.... i guess if your interested in fluid dynamics... :3_puh2: