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Seeing In How Reducing Weight And Assisting In Eliminating Power Drag From Engine Accessories (e.g. Lightweight Pulley And Underdrive Crank)
Is It Worth Using A Lightweight Accel. Pulley??????????? Its Relatively Small And I Dont Know How Much It Would Help Can Somebody Enlighten Me On This Topic.
 
all the acc. pulley will do is open up your throttle faster with less pedal response.
it won't give you any extra hp.....but you will be able to launch quicker. a noticable difference? probably. enough to knock a second off your 1/4 mile time....hell no.
 
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all the acc. pulley will do is open up your throttle faster with less pedal response.
it won't give you any extra hp.....but you will be able to launch quicker. a noticable difference? probably. enough to knock a second off your 1/4 mile time....hell no.
thanks.
however, if i am going to port polish my I/M and throttle body would this be a substitute or an even greater add on advantage
or should i just do one or the other?
 
the aftermarket acceleration pulley (SFR) is actually larger in size. that's why it opens up the throttle with less pedal response. the acc.pulley has a larger diameter, meaning it will give less slack on the throttle cable.
that's why it opens it up faster with less pressure on the pedal.
 
thanks.
however, if i am going to port polish my I/M and throttle body would this be a substitute or an even greater add on advantage
or should i just do one or the other?
substitute? i think you need to look a little deeper into how cars work. this little wheel has nothing to do with airflow or rotating mass. all it does is physically reduce the amount of travel your gas pedal has.
the aftermarket acceleration pulley (SFR) is actually larger in size. that's why it opens up the throttle with less pedal response. the acc.pulley has a larger diameter, meaning it will give less slack on the throttle cable.
that's why it opens it up faster with less pressure on the pedal.
ummmm... pretty sure its smaller. im not positive, but logically speaking it should be. the cable has plenty of adjustment for slack.

think of it like the smaller gears on your ten speed bike. it turns the wheel (throttle body) faster with less turns of the pedal crank (accelerator pedal). the pressure on the pedal will actually increase and the travel will decrease.

again, dont quote me, but thats how it should logically work.
 
all the acc. pulley will do is open up your throttle faster with less pedal response.
it won't give you any extra hp.....but you will be able to launch quicker. a noticable difference? probably. enough to knock a second off your 1/4 mile time....hell no.
technically, ur freeing up HP from less rotational mass...

n/a u get a smaller crank pulley. f/i u go larger.
 
just another note to OP, Accl. Pulley has nothing to do in being light weight. The difference comes because of being smaller in size
sure it does. they make "light weight" pulleys, and "underdrive" pulleys. (and overdrive for f/i)

lightweight is stock sized, just lighter (again, less rotational mass being wasted spinning something heavier).

underdrive "under-drives" ur accessories, technically giving better throttle response as well as freeing up rotational mass.
 
sure it does. they make "light weight" pulleys, and "underdrive" pulleys. (and overdrive for f/i)

lightweight is stock sized, just lighter (again, less rotational mass being wasted spinning something heavier).

underdrive "under-drives" ur accessories, technically giving better throttle response as well as freeing up rotational mass.
Dude !! ... bet you were drinking when you read the thread :)

You could not have missed that we're speaking of "Accl. Pulley = ACCELERATION pulley" that connetcs throttle cable to throttle body.

What you wrote up here is absolutely right for pulleys mounted at the cranckshaft and connected thereoff (crank, water pump, alternator, steering pump)
 
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ALPINEWHITE
im well informed on how cars work bro
however, this was the first time i had ever heard of the pulley from SFR
i never actually got around to inspect the product and distinguish its purpose from being lightweight or size. it was a very simple question and not even drawn to u specifically so i dont feel its cool to degrade my knowledge on a subject. Non of us would be here if we knew everything, so breath easy and watch how u talk
 
sorry guys. but you are mistaken. the acceleration pulley IS larger than stock.
this is coming straight from KDMguy:

in this thread:
http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126043&highlight=acceleration+pulley

he said:
"it is larger and lighter than stock.
because it is larger your throttle cable attactched to your gas pedal is tighter you get better response .. understandable? "

:gotsearch:
Sorry bro... and excuse me Kdmguy

I agree with the result = faster throttle response with SFR acceleration pulley.

BUT, I disagree on size relation, I know SFR and Kdmguy are great with performance tuning expertise, but may be Kdmguy had just made a mistake in writing or something and here is my argument.

(1) Geometry:
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(sorry for bad post image)

For any given angle a2=a1, X2 is absolutely smaller than X1 where X2 and X1 are proportional to respective pulley diameter.
That is to say, in the case of smaller pulley, you need to pull at P a length X2 only less than length X1 at P1 if you want to get the same turning angel. Less pull equal of the cable at P equals less push at the pedal.

(2) There might be little slackness coming from putting in a smaller pulley, but this is totally negligible compared to the slackness we already have in the TB (after all the cable isn't wrapped around the pulley and just holds to pulley close to the top). And once the TB cable gets stretched, the relation described above holds. (you can always adjust the slackness if you want)

(3) SFR website doesn't say anything about relation of stock size to this aftermarket accl. pulley.


Note that the same geometry principle is applied with underdrive pulleys. Smaller cranck pulley yield less linear speed of belt (less distance per given time), and that lower linear speed of the belt is translated at the other pulley as lower rpm of the driven pulley (water, alternator,..)
 
very good tuscanirider. i beleive you have a valid point. i understand what you are saying. but you can understand where i was coming from too. i mean, i was getting the info straight from KDMguy. whether he was mistaken, or misinformed is beyond me.
i think to really settle this, for me, is to see a side-by-side picture.
you have a valid point, and kdmguy is/was saying the opposite.

i just didn't want to be one of those guys who will yell "FAIL" at any oppurtunity that arises for them! lol
so i did the smart thing and just showed where i got my information from.
tuscanirider: ...to be continued!
lol
 
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well there is only one way to settle this
KDMGUY MUST buy everyone here an accel. pulley before the migration of bottle nose dolphins becomes abolished, and there will be no more milk in the world for cereal, and obama loses
 
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