it broke overnight? well then there's unlikely to be too much damage....the engine was only spinning at like 500 rpm....

 

you need a closer job sir.

 

i would say about 90-95% you have bent valves.

 

I do need a closer job, the plan was to move closer but this car has been killing me. Every time I fix something, something else breaks. If the belt broke while I was driving I would have noticed right?

 

If it broke while you were driving you would have been instantly stranded, mine broke when I was idling and I only had 17,000 miles..

 

how many miles/kilometres were on your car when this happened? just curious.

 

you would have noticed immediately if it would have broken while driving. Chances are though that you are going to have internal damage following a broken timing belt.

 

If it broke when you tried to start it this morning, it's POSSIBLE that your engine is ok, but I couldn't say for sure. A new timing belt kit would have to be installed and a compression test or a leak down test would have to be done to verify the health. If it ends up being bad, you'd have to get a new engine, but at least then the timing belt could be transferred over and you'd know that you have a new kit on there.

 

If the motors bad I'm done with this car. I've had it for ~15 months and I've sunk well over 4k into it + payments. I'm probably going to be looking for a new car regardless...I spent 7 years wanting a Tib and so far its been nothing but a pain in the ***.

 

You would not need a new motor if the valves are bent, only the heads rebuilt and if its severely jacked up new heads, but it would still run a lot of money regardless.

 

getting a new motor is the cheapest alternative really. A perfectly good motor from a junkyard is around $400, rebuilt heads would most likely be more.

If ur Tbelt broke while you were driving then the motor is toast.

You said u drove it home and it seemed fine? it couldnt have been snapped when u were driving cuz then it would not be fine. I think we need some more info like when exactly it broke and wut u did with the car after it broke

 

A perfectly good motor from a junkyard is like finding a needle in a haystack, lol and I stand by what I said, you would not NEED a new motor, and I stated it would cost a lot too, but if you do the work it will be just as cheap to get 2 used heads and do the install yourself, because you know what your motor has been through and the problems with it, you are playing a guessing game at a junkyard.

What IS the whole story, and how many miles were on your tib?

 

That's the whole story, I drove home and it was fine, tried to start it in the morning and no go. ~200k miles

 

so when did the belt break though? when you tried to start it in the morning? cuz i have a hard time believing it broke on your drive home and didnt notice it at all...

 

If it had broken on the way home I would have noticed, I'm assuming it broke when I tried to turn it over in the morning

 

you sure it actually broke? i know very stupid question but there's more than 1 person at my tech school who thought the serpentine belt and the timing belt were the same thing.

 

I don't have the car here.

 

I apologize to the thread starter if this feels like a hijack post; but what is the typical life of the timing belt. My nephew's car is 9 years old with about mid 50K miles on it. I suppose reading the owners manual would help:3_usehead

 

Every 60k miles is the suggested time for a belt change. Yes mileage is time dammit , lol. Im up for a change soon. Im at 117k now.

 

I broke a timing chain on my last daily driver (1990 420 SEL) -just like you at startup. It cost 10,000 for using block from parts car and, as someone has stated, new heads. May not need bottom end if valves did not go through pistons. Old Tibs aren't good commuters until you have refurbished them. My learning car was the 420 @ $50,000 over seven years including the $7,000 puchase price. I love my Tib because the repairs are mucho cheaper in most cases. I'm not taking it too far until I've done more work. Already paid around $4000 in Expected improvements/repairs since I read about the car before purchasing it. For your commute get a Corolla, use the Tib for fun. I feel your frustration, biggest repair bill on the 420? $19,800.

 

you broke the timing belt or the timing chain? two completely different things...

 

Timing chains don't really break... They usually just stretch.

 

yeah thats why i was confused when he said timing chain haha. if your breaking timing chains then you have some pretty big problems.

 

Even though the recommended interval is 60k, over time it gets weak itself. It would probably be a good idea to change it really really soon simply because of the age.

 

I would take a look at the belt. if the belt stretched and jumped a few teeth the cams may be out enough that its throwing a code keeping your car from turning over....eventually saving you. I and a member who used to be on here did my timing belt. got it all back together and drove all the way home...about 45 mins @ 70 mph. the car sat over the weekend and 5 mins down the road new belt fails. So weird things happen. Just see if the belt is indeed broken.

 

The valves are bent on at least 1 cylinder, the shop im at quoted me ~2500 for fixing the internals and 1k for the timing belt/water pump. My insurance probably wont cover anything so I may be parting it out if I can find somewhere I can tear it down. Otherwise its going to the junkyard.

 

Sucks man, sorry to hear that. And I know you don't want to replace the engine.

 

that sucks, sorry to hear it. if you do a lot of commuting and such, may i suggest just sucking it up and dealing with the payments, get a 3 year old off lease vehicle, and treat it right. do the maintenance (you get first crack at it anyways, not like buying used cars with questionable history) and it'll treat you much better than any 200K miles tib could possibly ever.

 

well, insurance isn't going to cover anything and i just found a place i can tow it and start parting it out. Since i don't have the 100 posts i need to do it here who would i yell at to find out if they'll allow it?

 

dude, these v6 motors are dirt cheap.... i wonder if you can get someone to put in a junkyard motor.....

otherwise i want some parts depending on the year.... i'll get my dibs in now lol.

 

I know the motors are cheap. I'm just incredibly tired of dealing with this car. It's an 03 w/ lots of new **** and a few performance parts.

 

Yeah I just bought one from this guy and he said the timing belt broke. Looks like its gonna be a new motor.

 

Right; Older cars had Timing chains. Newer vars have ti
Ing belts[. Same function.
How do you break a timing belt at home? Did you pull the cover?

QUOTE=diamondstar6892;3843100]you broke the timing belt or the timing chain? two completely different things...[/QUOTE]

 

Right; Older cars had Timing chains. Newer vars have ti
Ing belts[. Same function.
How do you break a timing belt at home? Did you pull the cover?

QUOTE=diamondstar6892;3843100]you broke the timing belt or the timing chain? two completely different things...

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Plenty of newer cars have timing chains, they last much longer and usually don't need any maintenance